Ok so,here is my only question can I use any bottle if a get a bench crimper insteed of the good old hand crimper or,is,it,the,same no matter what ?
Granitebeard addressed one question, and he is correct. Your capper will only handle the normal U.S. style caps unless you get the larger attachment for European (or champagne) bottles. (A lot of European bottles use the smaller U.S.-style caps, so you just have to check. Also a few American breweries use the European ones—looking at you, Scratch.) Another question is whether you could use bottles that originally had twist-off caps. The answer is, I don't think it's a good idea. You might get a good seal some of the time, but you're better off just using bottles that were always meant for pry-off caps. I admit this isn't really based on personal experience, since I've never tried to use twist-off style bottles, but I've never heard of anyone claiming that a bench capper makes it feasible.
My bench capper is this one. It’s saved me time and frustration. As shipped it comes with a head for standard 26mm caps. A 29mm head for capping some of the European style bottles mentioned is a $10 add-on. Some special release beers, often Belgian, are packaged in Champagne style bottles (corked, wire hood retainer). I’m not aware of any conversions you can make to a regular beer bottle capper that will let you push a cork, should you ever want to go that route. I found a minimal references online to using benchtop cappers for putting standard crown caps on twist-off bottles....mostly anecdotal, with at least one mentioning the glass being thinner just below where a wing-style capper would grab the bottle. Don’t know if that’s a fact, but it’s enough to make me shy away from twist-off even with a benchtop capper.
I think my question was a little vauge I mean will a bench capper cap normal() beer bottles not just the sam adams style beer bottl, could it cap the langnitas style bottle
Yes, as long as it is American and is not threaded. It should also work regardless of the height of the bottle.
Not sure if you're clarifying the question because you're still looking for an answer, but the answers given still apply and cover it.
My bench capper came from Goodwill, and it only had the larger, European-sized bell. I was able to find the smaller one online and rig it up. It can handle any bottle with a standard sized crimp on crown cap, regardless of height, as already said here. The only exception is indeed twist-off bottles. I tried one once, and it seemed okay, but started leaking and foaming while bottle carbonating. I definitely found that the bench capper works better for Lagunitas and Dos Equis type bottles with the "shallower" lip. There doesn't seem to be enough for the wing capper to "grab" onto in order to get the cap all the way on.
Going to piggyback on this thread... I have one of those blue Italian floor corkers that mostly sits around collecting dust since I rarely bottle. However, I do sometimes bottle higher gravity beers and the hand bottlers can be a pain (those cheap plastic ones are especially frustarting, luckily I found a better metal one). Has anyone used the Italian floor corker with the capper attachment? Easier to use?
I use an old jet hand crimper from ebay. I used it on the 500 ml euro bottles as well as American. The American bottles seem a little thinner glass. I broke a few necks and discovered that if you lift the bottle up off the counter before you crimp it all the way down it never breaks. I highly recommend the 500 ml bottles.