Bottle Logic Brewing (2020)

here's the latest from bottle logic re: Number Crunch. It's from an email sent out Friday.

"Greetings Friends,

I wanted to touch base and ensure you that I haven't overlooked your Number Crunch email! While all the liquid passed BrewPAL and BrewDEK testing at each stage of cellaring, we've sent a selection of NCB2 bottles down to White Labs in San Diego for a full panel workup in their world-class facility. We're hoping to get results back sometime next week.

Once we've got a complete picture, I'll reconnect and let you know what we've discovered and what our plan of recourse will be.

Thanks for your patience -- Happy New Year!"

It's a slight walk-back from BL's original email because the "bad capper on a stream on our bottling line" is no longer necessarily the culprit, but I'm sure we'll find out the exact reason for those off-flavor bottles soon enough. I trust BL to get to the bottom of this.

 

I am appreciative of the BL collabs with Listermann outta Cincinnati. More stuff like this is more than welcome!

Next up:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7EIeKtBgiB/?igshid=5h36whc8j467

 

Yeah, they seem to have the whole "peanut butter" thing completely dialed in.

 

Man, $12.99 a bottle? Can we get those prices here?

 

12oz. How's the price per ounce compare to a BL release?

 

$12.99 / 12 oz = $1.08 / oz
Approximately ~$23.99 / 16 oz = $1.49 / oz (depending on the release price)

 

I guess that's not too bad an increase considering the huge increase in the cost of everything in Cali compared to Ohio, even Cincy.

 

I think with Listermann, there's also a notable difference in time spent in barrels vs Bottle Logic, which likely reflects in cost too. But make no mistake, they make quality stouts. Very good bang for your buck.

 

Pricing also impacts what you can offer your employees. Might pay a little more per oz, but that ensures a brewery is able to pay competitively, provide benefits, and reduce employee churn - which ultimately stabilizes and improves the customer's experience.

 

Can’t speak for Listerman, but I know for a fact that Bottle Logic’s employees are well taken care of. Competitive pay, medical benefits, and 401k contribution matching. I’m sure all that is worked into their price. I’d be surprised if a brewery as small as Listerman was offering the same benefits.

 

Plus the costs for running a business in Cali is at least 5 times more than most other states... It's why most business already left the state..

 

Seeing bottle logic in San Jose/Santa cruz.
Bottle=$30
8oz pour at beer bar of gumdrop buttons=$16

a little too much for me.

 

If you take into account the eventbrite fees, $30 per bottle is only $5 to $6 more than from the brewery. I’d probably bite at that price for some releases.

That draft price is too much though.

 

I agree. I did ultimately buy the bottle, but not the draft.

 

Do tell.

Again this. It's the primary reason above all else. All the other reasons posited are absolutely negligible by comparison.

I don't think the 3 posters above you are accepting how much LESS expensive everything is here in Ohio compared to Cali, especially Anaheim, which for all intents and purposes might as well be LA to any of us outsiders.

And to be honest, that Listermann price is extremely high for a 12oz bottle here in Ohio. Very few Ohio breweries sell any beers at that high of a price per ounce. And there's a whole bunch of high quality options to choose from.

 

While I'm not disagreeing, the bottle is 16.9oz, so at least the ratios there aren't too far off.

 

I mean I agree other than the dramatic claims that "most business left the state".

 

I was trying really hard not to say something at that for fear of this sliding into a political direction. Some companies have left, yes, but last I checked there are still plenty of businesses still here doing just fine.

 

California is the fifth largest economy in the world ( After the US as a whole, China, Japan and Germany ). That's a lot of economic activity for a state where "most businesses have left".

California also has more breweries than any other state. Most of which have created pretty deep community roots and have no plans to leave. In fact, many want to expand.

It should also be noted that Statis beers are expensive even for Californians. They are a high end product and really need to be thought of as such. There are plenty of less expensive options available.

 

That $5 premium is cheaper than the gas/flight/time it’d take to make it down to Anaheim from the Bay Area. Seems worth it, to me.