Bottling day tips

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  1. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Greetings All,

    Noobrew #1 is happening within the next week or so. I just picked up a basic kit at that beer + wine place in Woburn, MA.

    I'm sure I need all sorts of tips for everything but I was hoping to get some input on how to have a clean and efficient bottling day. I couldn't find a specific thread on this but if there's one already out there, tell me to get my butt over there!

    If not, how do you guys make your bottling days clean and efficient?

    Thanks for any input! I'll try to post some pics of me fumbling through my first batch of homebrew. Should provide some entertainment for you guys in the near future. Stay tuned!

    -Curmudgeon
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    My advice... Slow down and read this before you brew, or even think about bottling...

    www.howtobrew.com

    Then come back and ask questions about what you've read. (And there's bottling information there too.)
     
  3. ssam

    ssam Pundit (973) Dec 2, 2008 California

    The tricks to a clean and efficient bottling day are as follows:
    0)When you drink a beer, immediately rinse the bottle out well and let it dry before packing it away. This saves tons of time come bottling.
    1)Make a list of things you need to do in order.
    2)Lay down towels because there will inevitably be spillage.
    3)Make sure you are comfortable using your equipment. (siphon, bottling wand, capper, etc)
    4)Get a friend to help you. One fills, the other caps.

    But Vikeman is right, you have several weeks before bottling. The brewing is what you should be concerned with at this point.
     
  4. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    If you have a dishwasher with a "sani rinse" setting, use it to sanitize your CLEAN bottles. Big time saver for the actual bottling session.
     
  5. Scope4Beer

    Scope4Beer Zealot (665) Sep 28, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I put all my bottles into sanitizer the first time I bottled, was a huge headache. Ever since I sanitize by covering the top with foil and baking in the oven at 350F for 1 hr. I do this before bottling day, one less thing to worry about and much less labor intensive.
     
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  6. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Rule #1 see @VikeMan post above
    Rule #2 do not follow the instructions that came with the kit, they are likely garbage
     
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  7. dennho

    dennho Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2006 New York

    Open your dishwasher door and fill the bottles over it. No mess on the floor.
     
  8. slusk

    slusk Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2009 Virginia

    Definitely follow the advice about reading howtobrew.com. Better yet, go buy a copy, it's a much more updated version, but the free online version has all you need. The one thing I recommend that I use universally in all my brewing, especially on bottling day, is a spray bottle of starsan. I use it to spray my work surfaces, sanitize the inside of my bottles and all of my bottling equipment. It's a convenient thing to have around for quick sanitizing. Get used to the word sanitize.... it's one of the primary concerns for everything that touches the wort or beer after it's boiled. Good luck on the first brew and... just have fun with it. No worries.
     
  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    A buddy system will take about an hour off of bottling day. One guy fills and the other guy caps. It's worth giving him a 6 pack for the help.
     
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  10. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

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  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,533) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    A frequent problem that is reported in this forum is inconsistent carbonation from bottle to bottle. It's important to get your priming sugar well dispersed into your beer. Most homebrewers boil the priming sugar in a few cups of water, cool it, then pour it into the bottom of the bottling bucket to allow the beer to mix it when you siphon it from your fermentor. I go the extra step of using my sanitized brewing spoon to stir the beer 4-5 times during the bottling process. BUT this stirring has to be very gentle and done without creating any bubbling during the process because the bubbling will introduce air into your beer and can lead to oxidation.
     
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  12. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Guys,

    This is great stuff. Vikeman, thank you, definitely the best advice. I've been reading that site for weeks now and it's awesome. I did see his sections on cleaning and sanitizing and how it applies to bottling but I still wanted to hear from various people on methods they've incorporated over time.

    Like dennho's tip on filling over an open dishwasher door. After I read that, I was like, "oh, no brainer", but I would not have thought to do that on my own. Thanks dennho!

    Slusk, I like your - spray bottle of starsan - tip too!

    Mothergoose03, I was wondering about priming sugar input methods too. I read it was ok to gently pour the priming sugar into the beer and then gently stir but I definitely like the idea of getting the priming sugar in first and then siphoning the beer in and letting that gently mix the sugar around. Also like the "extra step" of a few gentle stirs even after that!

    Do any of you use one of those bottle tree racks to hold your clean/sanitized bottles? They seem useful but I could see people saying they're a waste of money if there's some other DIY trick of holding your bottles.

    Again, really appreciate all the input! Thank you!
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The disadvantage to putting the priming sugar in the bucket first is that you don't know how much beer you're going to get in the bucket. Over time, you'll dial in your process and experience, but for your first batch, the volume of beer in the bottling bucket is probably going to be significantly different than either the recipe or your estimate. If you do it this way, I'd highly recommend choosing an amount of priming sugar aimed to get you right in the middle of whatever range of carbonation (CO2 volumes) you're willing to accept, so that if/when the beer volume doesn't quite hit the target, the result will still be acceptable.
     
  14. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,533) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I've always thought the tree rack was a good idea but I've never popped on getting one (or two because I don't think one would be enough).

    After sanitizing my bottles in a bucket I place them inverted in my cardboard case to drain onto a layer of paper towel that I spread under the bottle divider inside the case. The paper towel may not be sanitized by definition, but I figure that the sanitizer that is draining out of the bottle sanitizes the spot where the bottle mouth is sitting. (I also put a layer of wax paper under the paper towel so that the moisture doesn't get into the cardboard bottom of the case, thus lengthening the life of the case itself against moisture rot.) The bottles are not in this inverted position more than 30-40 minutes before they are pulled out to be filled. So far I've not had any infection issues.
     
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  15. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Damn. VikeMan, Mothergoose03, that is great stuff right there. Thanks again!
     
  16. BumpkinBrewer

    BumpkinBrewer Pundit (993) Jan 6, 2010 Massachusetts

    Beer-Wine Hobby is a great store. Welcome to the hobby (obsession)!
     
  17. slusk

    slusk Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2009 Virginia

    If you are budget minded, try one of these crates from walmart,
    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-Mini-Crate-Black/17126915
    You can store bottles in it and if you flip it upside down, the round holes are the right size to fit the bottle necks so they can drain after sanitizing. It will hold a case of bottles and the crate is like $4.
    I myself use a fast rack. I like it A LOT better than a bottling tree.
     
  18. ssam

    ssam Pundit (973) Dec 2, 2008 California

    But then you have to move the beer into the kitchen. Just lay a towel down. Works just as well but you can do it anywhere.
    Totally offended you didn't single out my clear and comprehensive list...
     
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  19. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Slusk, those crates - another great idea. Thanks again!
    Thanks for the welcome BumpkinBrewer. I don't know why I didn't get into this years ago; definitely something I will love.

    (Shoot, I forgot you ssam.) And SSAM, THANKS FOR THE TIPS! :grinning:
     
  20. redmaw

    redmaw Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I will add that letting the beer siphon onto the priming sugar (already dissolved in a couple cups of water) is not sufficient to stir in the priming sugar. I read somewhere it was, but my first batch I tried this and ended up with 8-10 over carbonated bottles and roughly 40 pretty much uncarbonated. I now consider the stirring mandatory, not an extra step.
     
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