Bottling my Imperial Stout

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  1. PuFtonLyfe

    PuFtonLyfe Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2011 North Carolina

    So I brewed this massive stout back a few months ago, OG- 1.115. Fermented it out for a month plus and got it down to 1.030 then racked it into a 5 gallon bourbon barrel. Pulled that after a month and racked back into a glass carboy. I am ready to bottle now, but I am worried there isn't enough yeast left to bottle condition. I plan on re-yeasting before bottling. My question-

    If I use a clean dry yeast like Safale 04 will the yeast survive that amount of alcohol? Or should I use something more beafy? I don't think champagne yeast is ideal. Thoughts? I'd like to get this in bottles ASAP, but I also don't want explosions or under-carbonated beer. Thanks.
     
  2. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    why is champagne yeast not ideal?
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You don't want bottle bombs... so use something that only eats simple sugars (and not more of the maltotriose than your primary strain did).

    You don't want undercarbonated beer... so use a strain that will eat all of the simple (priming) sugar without succumbing to the ABV.

    Champagne yeast fits these requirements. Otherwise...pick an ale strain that's less attenuative than your primary strain and highly alcohol tolerant.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I would recommend Champagne yeast for this beer since it is so high in alcohol. Below is a posting from Bill Pierce on another beer forum (Bill Peirce really knows his stuff!).

    “I prefer champagne yeast for its higher alcohol tolerance if the beer is above 10 percent ABV. Concerns that the yeast will ferment the beer too dry are misplaced; the yeast will happily metabolize the easily digestible priming sugar and leave the much more stubborn dextrins alone that contribute to body and mouthfeel.”

    Cheers!
     
  5. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    What I would do;
    I'd take 16 oz of it and put it into a 16 oz plastic bottle and add the recommended table sugar and know for sure in a week or two if I needed to re-yeast.
    Edit: The reason I'm suggesting plastic so you can easily just give it a squeeze ever few days to see if anything is happening.
     
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    dfess1 Initiate (0) May 20, 2003 Pennsylvania

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  8. PuFtonLyfe

    PuFtonLyfe Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2011 North Carolina

    Does anyone know where to find CBC-1 online? I don't think any local shops carry it.

    sergeantstogie- I'm pretty certain that I won't have enough healthy yeast to bottle condition as is. I've transferred this beer 5 times. I also am only left with 4 or less gallons out of an original 5.3, so any beer I can save is ideal.

    If I do use champagne yeast do you guys think I should pitch it in a few days before bottling to see if it eats through some of those complex sugars? I had a healthy fermentation, but I'm not positive that all the residual sugars are dextrins. I'm also not all that familiar with champagne yeast- sounds like it doesn't chomp on maltotriose too easily either. So I might be going with champagne. I'm just scared I will end up with way too much carbonation. My local homebrew shop owner thinks that rehydrating Safale 04 and pitching it directly in will work fine, but I'm not convinced that it will tolerate all that alcohol. Conclusions?
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Champagne yeast strains cannot, repeat cannot, use maltotriose. It's not that they can't use it 'easily.' Assuming your primary yeast did not poop out before it finished, there will be no 'lower' sugars left. What was your primary strain anyway? If you are sure your fermentation finished, why not use that?
     
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    dfess1 Initiate (0) May 20, 2003 Pennsylvania

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  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    If you're worried about a champagne yeast over fermenting you should pitch it in your fermenter about a week before you rack to your bottling bucket. There'll be plenty of yeast in suspension for the carbing and it will have a week to hang out in your RIS in case it wants to drop your FG a few points. I'd definitely rehydrate a dry yeast before pitching it and I'd definitely pitch more yeast.
     
  12. PuFtonLyfe

    PuFtonLyfe Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2011 North Carolina

    White Labs Cali was my primary strain. I just don't know if pitching that directly from a vial will give me good, viable yeast since the alcohol is so high. Could be wrong though. Looks like I'm going to go with champagne. I'll rehydrate, pitch and wait a couple days to see if there is any activity. Thanks for the advice guys.
     
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