Bourbon barrel beers without the barrel

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  1. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    I dont know about your crazy laws in Penn. But you can buy used barrels here in various sizes.
     
  2. beersnobraven

    beersnobraven Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2014 Illinois

    It's the time spent in the barrel in addition to the flavors added from the spirit previously housed in the barrel that give a bourbon-aged beer it's full flavor instead of just adding a shot of bourbon to the base beer.
     
  3. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    I'm going to pretend I never read this.
     
  4. beersnobraven

    beersnobraven Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2014 Illinois

    It doesn't, although bourbon seems to be the most common. Some non-bourbon examples are: Lost Abbey Agave Maria (tequila barrels), Clown Shoes Billionaire (cognac barrels), and Deschutes The Abyss (red wine barrels).
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As has already been mentioned, the oak/bourbon flavor can be ‘added’ by aging the beer on oak (cubes, chips, spirals, etc.) that were previously soaked in bourbon. For commercial breweries these beers need to be labeled as being oak aged vs. barrel aged.

    On the homebrewing scale (e.g., 5 gallon batches) this aging on bourbon soaked oak does provide results similar to bourbon barrel aging and there is a benefit of a shorter timeframe for aging (weeks vs. many months/years).

    Cheers!
     
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  6. JArt

    JArt Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Pennsylvania

    It is a combination of the cost of the barrel and the relatively small size of my brewing operation. I have several barrels for wine making, I just have not made the investment yet for beer.
     
  7. Thirstygoat

    Thirstygoat Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2012 Illinois
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    I'll drink a boilermaker, but won't waste rare beer or expensive bourbon on one.
     
  8. gibgink

    gibgink Pooh-Bah (1,581) Oct 27, 2014 Missouri
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    Don't forget beech wood!
     
  9. SaisonRichBiere

    SaisonRichBiere Pooh-Bah (2,033) Mar 23, 2011 Michigan
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    I've tried several. Sours seem to be aged in wine barrels, and it tends to work very well. Cognac or Port barrels, in my experience, often add a very strong boozy fruit/grape essence, which can cut through even the roastiest of stouts. Bourbon or whiskey barrels tend to be the most versatile across the board, which can add several different nuances that can complement a variety of different beers- vanilla, oak and caramel to pair with the malts, spicy or citrusy notes to accent hops. Bourbon just works the best- and in the US, there seems to be a good amount of available barrels.
     
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  10. xpertskir

    xpertskir Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2010 West Virginia

    So I guess it takes this many posts before oxygen exchange is mentioned, in addition to some of what has been said above. While negligibly important in sacc only beers it's hugely important in beers with pedio and brett.
     
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  11. olradetbalder

    olradetbalder Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2011 Sweden

    The problem is not the barrels when it takes to much flavour, it is the time in the barrel.
    Many brewers tend to keep the beer in the barrels way to long...
     
  12. sd123

    sd123 Pooh-Bah (2,073) Jan 15, 2012 Georgia
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    some people have mentioned gin-barrel aged beers, are they any good? sounds pretty weird but i guess thats what i thought about tequila barrel aged beers initially.....
     
  13. tommyguz

    tommyguz Pooh-Bah (2,534) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Yes to all, including Scotch, Tequila, Gin

    and I think Bourbon is the most used only because in the scheme of things it's the "easiest" to obtain, because Bourbon Barrels can only be used once then they have to be put to rest - most of which go to Scotch, some to Tequila and the rest to breweries for beer aging.
     
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  14. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    any beer made in any barrel is influenced by numerous factors, just because it comes from one spirit vs another doesn't preclude it's going to be better, you'll find variety and different amounts of quality even from brewers who use the same time of spirit used barrels, it all depends. Some you may like some you may not.
     
  15. 1ale_man

    1ale_man Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2015 Texas

    For anyone interested, you can google whiskey aging kits and find many companys sell used barrels. Ranging from 2 liters up to standard 53 gallon. I saw one company that had an 8 gallon one. I don't home brew, but that sounds like it would work.www.woodvillewhiskeyco.com
     
  16. sd123

    sd123 Pooh-Bah (2,073) Jan 15, 2012 Georgia
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    of course the initial beer matters but i imagine there are only a few gin-aged beers out there. just wondering what people have thought about them and what styles of beer are typically used
     
  17. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    try the search function in the beer section listing for a query. If you type in gin barrel and search, you'll get some other barrel aged brews in the list but you'll see some that are gin aged and what people thought of them.

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/search/?q=gin+barrel&qt=beer
     
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