Bourbon County Coffee 2015 - Gusher?

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  1. siege06nd

    siege06nd Savant (984) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia

    cracked one open today that had been in my basement and it had a moderate gush. Tastes OK, tho the coffee qualities would be difficult to differentiate from any possible infection flavors.

    Anyone else had this happen?
  2. mendvicdog

    mendvicdog Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2006 Maryland

    Yes. A friend had this happen as well.
  3. jimmypa

    jimmypa Initiate (166) Nov 15, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Oh no... Say it ain't so!
  4. Beer_Line

    Beer_Line Aspirant (298) May 29, 2015 California

    Probably explains the lack of BCBCS bottles circulating this year. (they thought they caught all the infected bottles before they went out)
  5. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    If this is true it was bound to happen at some point. I for one will hold off on worrying until we have more info.
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  6. starrdogg

    starrdogg Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2010 District of Columbia

    Opened a bottle on Saturday with no such problems. Tasted wonderful as always too!
  7. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    Was cracking bottles all around town last week and nothing but sweet BCBCS nectar within. Nothing reverberating on the local front either. Methinks this be a very isolated incident.
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  8. WortCraft

    WortCraft Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2014 California

    Opened my only bottle last night. Not a big fan..had a cherry tart/tang at the end. Definitely felt like it was going to sour up eventually. Thinner than last years batch and the coffee roast seemed to be weakened by this cherry tart flavor.
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  9. wifehatesthebike

    wifehatesthebike Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2008 Michigan

    I opened one and it taste off as well. Not terrible but not up to par. Hope my others are better.
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  10. Mitchell-Lees

    Mitchell-Lees Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2015 Indiana

    Had one while opening presents this morning. As stated about had this off fruity tartness on the back end. My brother had one of his bottles at the same time and his did not have the same problem. I don't think this is the case with the vast majority of the bottles.
  11. Lazhal

    Lazhal Devotee (477) Mar 13, 2011 Michigan

    Just opened a Morningwood Coffee Stout by odd side, and it has that off taste. I've opened two others on different occasions without that issue.

    Anyway, just wondering if the whole off taste we are experiencing has nothing to do with the beer, but rather the food we are consuming these holidays.
  12. Invinciblejets

    Invinciblejets Devotee (477) Sep 29, 2014 South Carolina

    Had two bottles none gushed but one seemed to be more carbed than the other.
  13. Themightywrenn

    Themightywrenn Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2015 California

    Just cracked a 15 bcbcs and while it wasn't a gusher, it had definite off flavors and carb... buttery, tart end, undeniably infected. Sad.
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  14. utopiajane

    utopiajane Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2013 New York

    I think that the beers I have had that were infected displayed this exact quality. The most recent being a lager (not bourbon county) that tasted sour or tart.
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  15. MasterPenguins

    MasterPenguins Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 Indiana

    In the cases that my local liquor store got of BCBCS this year there was one bottle out of the twelve the was about half full but still sealed. It was also covered in dust and the bottle just looked dirty. The manager opened it and took a sip. Not much coffee, and had a cherry-like tartness at the end. I smelled it (not brave enough to taste it haha) and it definitely didn't smell right.

    He hadn't talked to anyone who had opened one of the other eleven bottles in that case to see if it was just this one weird bottle...

    My guess is that there were some bad bottles, and GI was trying to catch them before they went out, but some made it through.
  16. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (2,771) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I've had infected sours before, and the off notes that hit were sour tart cherries. For that particular beer it made it taste kinda like Cherry Rye. But with BC Coffee I'd be pissed.
  17. Themightywrenn

    Themightywrenn Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2015 California

    Definitely not happy about it haha
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  18. GR_Beer_Nut

    GR_Beer_Nut Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2012 Michigan

    Had a gusher a few weeks ago....will not trade for any more! They had to know infected bottles got out, they do batch testing. That's the part that gets me. Thanks d-bags for wasting liver space.
  19. UTvols05

    UTvols05 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2014 Georgia

    Currently drinking one that I purchased in Georgia...

    Nose is somewhat coffee forward, but more vegetal/green than the draft version I had...

    Taste is really off. At first, it tastes almost salty; not finding the roasted coffee I picked up in the nose. The finish is borderline awful... Tart cherry and sour funk.

    Also, to reflect what others have said, the body seems unusually thin.

    I have a handful more of these and have also given/traded a few away. Really hope that the ones I gave away are a better experience for the recipients than this one was for me.
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  20. rab53

    rab53 Poo-Bah (3,259) May 1, 2005 Washington
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    Only bottle I've opened (so far) foamed over onto the counter unexpectedly. Tasted fine once it warmed up a bit.
  21. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Poo-Bah (3,098) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    Wow, that sucks! And I was bummed that I got 0 bottles of BCBCS this year.
  22. jssf

    jssf Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2015 California

    I tried a BCS for the first time (my first bourbon barrel aged anything) last night. It was a 2014 regular, delicious, but I don't know how you drink a full bottle of that on your own. In fairness I had already had an Enjoy By and a Damnation, but I basically had to split half a bottle with my wife with the rest left for today. I found a little went a long way.

    I think this why I haven't bought Prairie Bomb to try. Intimidated...
  23. pagriley

    pagriley Meyvn (1,032) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois

    Anyone experiencing this contacted goose island yet? I have found them pretty responsive to complaints, and if you don't tell them they can't track down the batches that might be having an issue
  24. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

  25. Soneast

    Soneast Champion (873) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin

    Well the fact that there is sourness, and the body of the beer has thinned out and there is extra carbonation which indicates additional (unintentional) fermentation after the beer was bottled. Yep, there is no doubt in my mind that some bottles of BCBCS are definitely infected. If it were anybody but Goose Island, I doubt you would be defending them.

    FYI, I had an infected bottle as well, which I drain poured. Oh, and I'd love to send the rest of my infected BCBCS to whichever douche bag responds with "send me the rest." Just send me a postage paid, self-addressed box.
  26. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Poo-Bah (3,262) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    I friend opened a bottle up for me and it was really good. No signs of infection that I could tell. Tastes like bourbon county and espresso.
  27. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (2,771) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    The gushing and sour cherry hits are a dead give away. Neither are representative of anything BC.
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  28. jrnyc

    jrnyc Meyvn (1,158) Mar 21, 2010 New York

    I am assuming if this was a wide-spread problem this thread would be blowing up.
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  29. HopBroker

    HopBroker Disciple (375) Jun 5, 2015 Washington

    Good 'ol AB quality control
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  30. Soneast

    Soneast Champion (873) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin

    Hey! You weren't supposed to take me up on the offer. Now I have to admit that I lied and only purchased one bottle. lol :stuck_out_tongue:
  31. mstrcrwly

    mstrcrwly Initiate (0) Dec 21, 2013 New York

    No big loss..SMS will be out soon..cheaper and better..
  32. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    Mine was not a gusher but it did taste awful. All I tasted was sour coffee, no bourbon or beer taste at all. I did have a 2014 coffee back in February and it was great.
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  33. maximum12

    maximum12 Poo-Bah (5,236) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    This thread had me wondering, so popped my only bottle last night. No gushing, no infection, but the beer was just a routinely good coffee stout, nothing like the wonder of previous vintages. A bit sad, but glad I didn't buy a bunch.

    I'd take SMS any day!
  34. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (3,097) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    FWIW I have tasted too many beers with infections, and I read the coffee tasting notes you linked, and in my opinion this beer is infected. It isn't unusual for only some few beers out of a batch to show infection, and others are fine. What folks are describing here, i.e. overcarbonation, muted flavors, lactic tart, sour cherry finish are the hallmarks of a young infection.
  35. ericwo

    ericwo Initiate (76) Aug 21, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Poetic Justice
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  36. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    I hate not having a more credible source for this (so take with the appropriate amount of salt), but a friend and I were discussing the relative rareness of the coffee variant this year. He went to Rare Day and one of the GI employees obliquely mentioned there not being much coffee this year because they had to dump some that wasn't up to their standards. No specific mention of an infection, because I'm sure they know just as well as any brewer that the dreaded I-word is an open invitation for internet rabble rousers to out the pitchforks. But in hindsight, it seems like this might have been what they were referring to. Given the fact that it seems relatively isolated *and* the scarcity of Coffee this year, you can't really fault GI for not doing the right thing here. Sounds like some may have just slipped through the cracks.

    It's a little bittersweet, because BCBCS is certainly my favorite coffee-infused stout, and might be my favorite stout overall. I was disappointed to not get my hands on any and had pretty much resigned myself to being unable to trade for any given the seeming scarcity and the high value for which it seemed to be trading. At this point, I don't think I'll be trying to trade for any, because even though the issue seems to be fairly infrequent, I'd hate to go through the hassle, extra expense and lost bottles to get a bottle only to find it tart/flavorless/overcarbonated/etc.

    Hahaha, well if he hadn't taken you up on it, I was going to. But props to you for admitting it on the thread--you could have just BM'd him with your mea culpa :grinning:
  37. BlakeAM

    BlakeAM Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2011 Illinois

    Interesting, I traded for two Sunday Morning Stouts last year and so far, the one I've opened was sour as the dickens. Infection city.
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  38. PuckIt

    PuckIt Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I had a regular BCBS 15 do a minor gush on me, but it tasted great. Took about 5 seconds before it started to foam over, but not with any sort of force.
  39. mendvicdog

    mendvicdog Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2006 Maryland

    I had two bottles recently. Neither gushed.

    One was colder and tasted good if a little thin compared to prior batches. Was definitely my least favorite of any of the coffee BCBS bottles I've had over the years though. You could get a slight off flavor in the finish but nothing major.

    The second bottle was room temp and had been shipped to me. Smelled great but as soon as you tasted it, it was obvious it was infected. It seemed to be in the middle of the infection and not completely sour, but it was still very off.

    I've had plenty of infected bottles before. I know what an infection tastes like.

    Sucks. I'd recommend keeping your infected bottles in case Goose does something about it.
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  40. Lazhal

    Lazhal Devotee (477) Mar 13, 2011 Michigan

    Yep, a definite sour / tartness in my bottle...damn, really really freaking disappointed right now.

    My bottle was not a gusher. Barely any head at all during a slow pour.

    Bottled 09/17/15 Batch 1048 (? Not exactly sure what that # is).
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    Last edited: Dec 29, 2015
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