Bread Pudding Beer

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  1. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Yep, that's about what I would have expected as well.
     
  2. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Thanks for putting it through the calculator! Yes, it was for 11 gallons post boil initially, but we actually ended up with about 10 gallons post boil. The efficiency wasn't as high as expected (we should have dropped it 5%) and we wanted to stay close to the OG, so we lost about a gallon. The 1.020 reading was on Monday, but it was still bubbling yesterday. However, it probably hasn't changed much since then, so I'm glad to hear that we're about right on the F.G.
     
  3. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    You may, of course, add another 0.5 to 1.0 lb lactose at any time, now or later, since it's not fermentable. This will fill the body more and help to offset the dryness and bitterness that you're perceiving. Maybe start with 0.5 lb and see if you like that better, and if not, add a little more.
     
  4. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Great idea! I'll try that. I might need to add a little more vanilla as well. For the extra portion, I'll just add vanilla extract.
     
  5. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    @OldBrewer

    So, it's been a few months. What's the verdict?
     
  6. DavidlovesCBC

    DavidlovesCBC Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2014 Florida

    I think I would go with the same yeast Westveltreen uses since that's what reminds you of bread pudding. WY 3787
     
  7. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I just had a glass tonight before I read this! I tried to let it sit for a few months before tasting it again, so tried it tonight. It tastes remarkably like bread pudding, the color was just right, but it was just a little weak on the vanilla, since I didn't leave the beans in long enough. The bread, cinnamon, and raisins come through very nicely, while the vanilla, as mentioned is just barely noticeable. It's a bit like a barley wine in some respects. If I were to make it again, I might make it a little stronger (% alcohol), allow the vanilla beans to sit for another week or two, and maybe add some real raisins in addition. Other than that, I don't think I would change anything else.
     
  8. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    You're right - I think that the Westvleteren yeast might also have worked very nicely.
     
  9. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Very cool, good to hear. I may have to give this one a shot, with your suggested changes of course. I've had beers with raisin additions before and always enjoyed the character they impart. Think I may use the Westy yeast as well.
     
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  10. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    The best raisin beer that I've ever had the pleasure to experience is Dogfish Head's Raisin D'Extra. This beer ranks as one of the best 5 beers I've ever had. I would love to get some of that raisin taste in this bread pudding beer.
     
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  11. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    So, I ended up brewing something similar to this. I thought it would be nice for the holidays. I followed this recipe for the most part but wanted something a bit stronger. I also decided to go with Wyeast 3787 which definitely added more of a Belgian character to the beer. I pitched a large, stepped up starter starter (1L to 3L and decanted), and I fermented cool (64°F) to try to keep the ester/phenols to a minimum which seemed to work pretty well. That said, enough yeast character came through to where I would definitely consider this more of a Belgian Dark Strong. I decided to add some candi sugar, which I had on hand, which certainly tips it into Belgian territory as well. It is pretty boozy, though more in a belly-warming sense, rather than alcohol burn on the palate, which of course will mellow with age. Even so, I already really enjoy the end product, it is very reminiscent of bread pudding. The wife loves it, and I took a growler to an Christmas gathering and it seemed to be a pretty big hit. Everybody went back for seconds which is a good sign, and I was asked to bring some to our NYE event this weekend. Thanks for the inspiration @OldBrewer !


    Type: All Grain
    Batch Size: 6.00 gal
    Boil Size: 7.25 gal
    Boil Time: 75 min
    End of Boil Vol: 6.25 gal
    Date: 22 Oct 2016
    Efficiency: 60.00 %

    13 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 48.1 %
    3 lbs 8.0 oz Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 2 13.0 %
    2 lbs 8.0 oz Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3 9.3 %
    2 lbs 8.0 oz Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 4 9.3 %
    1 lbs 12.0 oz Wheat Malt, Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 5 6.5 %
    1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 6 3.7 %
    1 lbs Candi Sugar, Amber (75.0 SRM) Sugar 8 3.7 %

    1.00 oz Magnum [12.40 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 10 28.7 IBUs
    12.0 oz Raisins (8.0 SRM) (Boil 5.0 mins) Sugar 9 2.8 %
    4.00 Items Ceylon Cinnamon Stick (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 11

    1.0 pkg Trappist High Gravity (Wyeast Labs #3787)
    3.00 Items Mexican Vanilla Beans (Secondary 7.0 days) Spice 13

    Bitterness: 28.4 IBUs
    Est Color: 21.2 SRM
    Measured Original Gravity: 1.094 SG
    Measured Final Gravity: 1.019 SG
    Actual Alcohol by Vol: 10 %

    PS
    I left in primary 28 days, kegged, purged, and left at cellar temp for 30 days. Then put in kegerator at serving pressure and served a week later.
     
    #51 Soneast, Dec 31, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2016
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  12. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Thanks, Soneast. I aged mine and served it at a Christmas gathering. I got some very good comments, and oddly someone mentioned that it would taste even better if a Belgian yeast was used, such as you have suggested. I might tweak my recipe more towards your recipe the next time I make it. I like the addition of raisins.
     
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  13. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Yea I used an extract potential of 1.030 for the raisins, which seemed to be the recomendation online. I dont get a ton of aroma/flavor from them, though my wife does, she admittedly has a much better palate than me, lol. I should have heeded your advice on the vanilla, either used more beans or for a longer time. The vanilla is there but is fading fast. I think the cinnamon is about right for my tastes.
     
  14. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    Reviving this thread.....

    @Soneast did you make any changes to the bread pudding brew for 2018?
    @OldBrewer have you brewed this again? Did you make any changes...adjustments for raisins maybe?

    Both of you mentioned it could use more vanilla. Did you use more (or different) vanilla?
     
  15. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I never did make it again, but it's on my to-do list.
     
  16. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    I did use more vanilla beans this time. Five in fact. Everything else I left the same.
     
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