Brett IPAs

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  1. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Not an IPA but Fear of a Brett Pkanet is a great Brett pale ale. Fresh it's good and with some age the Brett pops.

    Wild devil was very good, still sitting in a bottle from a few years back.

    Enjoy
     
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  2. cl3

    cl3 Savant (1,244) Aug 16, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Surly's collaboration brew with Mikkeller, a Brett Belgian IPA called "Brett Mikkels" from a while back, was really good too. Plus the label art looked like a bandana. Pretty good one. I lol'd.
     
  3. ndepriest

    ndepriest Zealot (714) Feb 21, 2012 Georgia
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    I prefer Jemaine IPAs.
     
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  4. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I've only ever have a Brett IPA once, but I love dry hopped sours.
     
  5. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Ithaca did brett DIPA. it was fruity. it was good.
     
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  6. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I bought it because it had the words Belgian Style Pale Ale on the label and not knowing anything else about it. Liked it and rated it at the time thinking I would get back and do a review later. Now I've learned to review everything worth reviewing.
     
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  7. ichorNet

    ichorNet Pooh-Bah (2,565) Mar 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Green Flash's Rayon Vert is not a Brett IPA, it's pretty much an Orval clone. So, it is definitely a Brett beer but more like a Belgian Pale Ale than an APA or IPA. Might be slightly hoppier than Orval, but I don't really think it is... not sufficiently enough to call it an IPA, in any case. Speaking of RV, however, Green Flash did kind of "revive" it recently, albeit in a different format and with a different name. For those who loved RV, you can find it under the name Baroque Belgique. It's part of their Cellar 3 750 mL series!

    I love Brett IPAs... most recent one I had was Captain Lawrence's American Funk. Dry-hopped, oak aged and Brett-fermented. Very unique grassy and pine-y hop notes with a touch of citrus and tannin structure from the barrel, plus the rustic funk from the wild yeast. This kind of beer certainly isn't for everyone, but I feel lucky enough to have the taste for them.
     
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  8. thuey

    thuey Pooh-Bah (1,705) Nov 13, 2015 California
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    For my wife and I, the best beer we tried at Firestone XX Anniversary Party was in fact...

    - Firestone Walker/Silva: Ten Buck Chuck

    It's basically a Brett Luponic Distortion.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    A number of posts about Victory Wild Devil. I discussed aged versions of this beer in a couple of New Beer Sunday threads:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-sunday-week-567.371920/#post-4386923

    A beer like Victory Wild Devil is ‘challenging’:

    · It requires the patience of cellaring this beer for 1+ years to permit the Brett flavors to develop

    · As the beer ages the Brett flavors are noticeable but the hop aroma/flavor has faded

    Is an aged Victory Wild Devil really an IPA if you can no longer perceive the hop aroma/flavor?

    Cheers!
     
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  10. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Yeah, but keep in mind the blurriness of beer styles. Orval has very little resemblance to most Belgian blonds, and there are knowledgable folks who feel like it resembles an old-school English IPA more than anything else.
     
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  11. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    That explains why I liked it.
     
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  12. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    I always want to like these more than I actually end up liking them...which is to say... haven't found one yet where I can enjoy this combo. Maybe someday.
     
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  13. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I could agree with you more and I think I will!
     
  14. ichorNet

    ichorNet Pooh-Bah (2,565) Mar 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Not doubting you at all, but I've never heard anyone say that before. Seems a somewhat weird sentiment to me, but different strokes for different folks and all that... I guess it would depend on how much aging time the Orval in question has had, though. I've had year old and three year old Orvals and they are wildly (no pun intended) different so I guess it makes some amount of sense that a fresher one would be a bit English pale/IPA like in a sense...
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Red Swingline really nails it. The brett brings tart fruitiness, and the hop s really shine with that flavor profile. I wouldn't age it, the hops fade and the brett gets a bit gamey.
     
  16. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I know it sounds weird.

    English pale ales had Brett at the point when Orval was developed, so it wouldn't have had to been fresh for the comparison to work.

    Also, I think people generally think of the differences between English, German, and Belgian beers and unintentionally amplifly them without considering how deep the connections were. Just to illustrate some examples of Belgium looking to the UK: Duvel was brewed with Scottish yeast, Rodenbach based their barrels on English brewing, Belgians made Scotch ale and stout, they employed dry-hopping, and so on. In the case of Orval, the master brewer was a German and he developed the beer with a Belgian who lived in England and brought some English brewing practices to the beer.

    Cheers.
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Chris,

    Have you ever had a very fresh Orval? If so, does it taste like an English Pale Ale to you?

    The brewers yeast that is used to brew this beer is referred to as Bastogne Belgian Ale Yeast (WLP510). I used this yeast strain along with Brett B to recently brew my Belgian Pale Ale with Brett beer.

    Cheers!
     
  18. dlcarst

    dlcarst Zealot (733) Aug 21, 2015 Missouri
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    4 Hands Constellation series were quite good, and Super Flare (w/ mango) was amazing. I've had Surly's Unbridled also which is quite good. Enjoy After was a bit underwhelming, however. It's a style I certainly enjoy but definitely don't see often.
     
  19. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    I really love them when done right, however I've had a lot of unbalanced, all over the map ones that are sometimes discouraging for the style. Luckily a brewery 10 mins away from me makes an amazing year round one (Sacc Trios, not Brett, but similar enough).

    They also age great, getting all dry, funky and bretty with a side effect of foam explosions when opened.
     
  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I had Orval in Belgium that provided a different experience from having it in the States. I remember it having less personality (but I don't mean that in a bad way). I believe Bass had Brett in the mid 20th century. For me, a more illuminating question would be: "If I had an aged Bass in 1940, would it taste like an English pale ale to me?"

    Please understand that I am not suggesting that Orval should have its style listing on BeerAdvocate changed to English pale ale/IPA. I'm pointing out the shades of grey instead of subscribing to "it's this or that."
     
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