Brett Pale Ale (Funktown Blend)

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  1. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    My order of Funktown Pale Ale just came in and I'll be brewing this weekend. I've never brewed with Brett before, and this blend sounded pretty user friendly. The plan is to brew a nice, easy drinking pale ale with a nice fruity brett character, any suggestions for my recipe would be greatly appreciated:

    OG: 1.060
    80% Rahr 2 row
    8.5% Wheat
    4% Crystal 10L
    4% Special B
    3.5% Carapils

    Hops (31 IBU):
    60 min: .5 oz Magnum
    30 min: .5 oz Cascade
    5 min: 1 oz Cascade, .5 oz Willamette
    FO: 1 oz Cascade, .5 oz Willamette

    I figured since the Brett in the blend should dry it out a bit, I would be safe going a little heavy on the crystal/carapils, any thoughts on this? I was thinking of fermenting at 68 for a week, then cranking it up to 72 or so for another couple of weeks. Should I leave it longer than that to let the brett dry it out? I'll be kegging the beer, so I'm not worried about bottle bombs.
     
  2. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    Also, any experience with this yeast blend would be awesome, I can't seem to dig up much on google.
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Hopefully somebody who has brewed with Yeast Bay Funktown Pale Ale blend will chime in with their experience with this yeast blend.

    The only ale/Brett yeast blend that I have brewed with is Wyeast 3789: “A unique blend of Belgian Saccharomyces and Brettanomyces for emulating Trappist style beer from the Florenville region in Belgium.”, which is very different from the blend in Funktown Pale Ale blend so I do not think my experiences have any bearing here.
    Below is the description of Funktown Pale Ale on the Yeast Bay website and it sure reads tasty!

    Please report back on your experience with this yeast blend.

    Cheers!

    "Funktown Pale Ale is a blend of our Vermont Ale strain and a unique strain of Brettanomyces that is well suited for primary fermentation. The combination of the citrus/peach esters from the Vermont Ale strain and the light funk and pineapple/mango esters from the Brettanomyces produces a unique flavor and aroma profile. Expect this blend to finish drier than the Vermont Ale. Approximately 58 billion cells/vial.

    Temperature: 68 - 74 ºF
    Attenuation: 78-80%+
    Flocculation: Medium-Low"
     
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  4. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Funktown Brown would be a great name for a beer with that yeast.
     
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  5. fistfight

    fistfight Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2006 Massachusetts

    I'll be brewing a Funktown IPA this weekend using my standard IPA technique, only changing the hops. I'm not actually expecting much more attenuation than US-05, maybe just a bit. I could be wrong though.

    With fermentation flavor descriptors like citrus, peach, pineapple, and mango I was thinking of using Citra to further amp up the tropical fruit and Columbus to add some more dank. What other hops should I consider using?

    Also, I'm assuming the Brett strain is Brett Trois. Should I be adding acidulated malt after conversion to drop the ph? I've read that is necessary to bring out the pineapple flavor.
     
  6. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    Interesting to know about dropping the PH, I was thinking about adding some acidulated as well.

    I think you couldn't go wrong if you added Amarillo into that mix.
     
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  7. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    No idea about the yeast, but I like the hops. I would move the 30 min Cascades to 15 min, but that is personal preference.

    Are you sure you want Special B? Why the Carapils? Why not a little more C10?

    Take this for what it is worth, I am not a brett expert at all, but from what I have read, the ale yeast should do its normal thing, i.e. finish within a week or so and the brett will continue to chew through the rest at its slower pace. I think the longer you leave it fermenting, the more bretty you will get. If you keg and chill at 3 weeks, you would drop out the brett before it does much. So, how much brett do you want? This might be a case for testing/tasting as you go and keg when it is ready.
     
  8. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    to the OP...you might consider swapping willamette for something a little more fruit forward like amarillo if you can. Same goes for you fistfight, love amarillo...

    yeah brux trois sounds about right.

    edit: whoops, just noticed eric actually made this suggestion a few posts up...
     
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  9. ditch

    ditch Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2009 Virginia

    I brew a lot of IPAs with Brett Brux Trois. Which I believe is the strain blended with the Conan here. If you make a decent size starter this strain acts like a Sacch strain. Pretty high attenuator. My IPAs are usually around the 1065 range and finish 1012 within 3 weeks with no simple sugars added to the boil and a mash temp of 152. The excess of crystal malts should not be necessary. Put the bill together like you would with your sacch strains.

    I also agree with using some more citrus or tropical fruit forward hops. The brett will give you different flavors from the hops than you are used to, but should be quite pleasant. I ferment around 65 for the growth phase and then raise the temp a degree a day to 70 and let it finish out. Good luck! And let us know how yours turns out
     
  10. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    I could go with more C10, but I was thinking a little Special B would give it more
    I was thinking about Amarillo, but I wasn't sure if that would make it too much fruit. I'm thinking you're right, so I'm gonna go with 50-50 Amarillo/Cascade.
     
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  11. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    Thanks for the info. I was planning on making a 2L starter and splitting it with a buddy, do you think I'll lose a lot of Brett character that way?
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    My recollection from a recent thread (which got deleted) is that Nick (@Biobrewer) recommended that The Yeast Bay blends should not be used to make a starter; my guess is that making a starter with a blend will get the strain proportions ‘out of whack’.

    Hopefully Nick will chime in with some advice on this particular matter.

    Cheers!
     
  13. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    I believe he commented on making a starter for this blend and said that it wouldn't change the proportions significantly. It would be nice if that thread was still around.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "It would be nice if that thread was still around." A BIG +1 to that!

    Cheers!

    P.S. Maybe the don't make a starter was for one of this other blends (e.g., Saison blend)?
     
  15. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    Did that entire yeast bay thread get deleted? That's really annoying, lots of great info in there and it was really great to have the business owner answering questions.

    In anycase, I asked him about making a starter for the Funktown Pale blend and he said it shouldn't be a problem, since the sacc strain was the dominate anyway.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "That's really annoying, lots of great info in there..." I agree with you there!

    Cheers!
     
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  17. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Crusader (455) Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    You can still view the webpage if you like. Do a google search for "beeradvocate+homebrewing+yeast bay" and click on the inverted green triangle to the right side to view cached versions of the page.

    A bit tedious, but it works.
     
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  18. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    Good call. I guess it was deleted because the owner was "pimping" his business?
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Alan, you da man!

    I went to the Google path and copied & pasted the thread to save since there was such good information in that thread discussion.

    Cheers to Alan!

    P.S. The discussion about making a starter of the blends was that Nick generally does not recommend making a starter for the blends but thinks that making a starter for Funktown Pale Ale would likely be OK:

    I know you recommend not making a starter for the blends, but for the Funktown blend is it a bad idea? It seems on the low end for pitching straight from the vial, but I wouldn't want to mess up the ratio too much.


    You certainly can make a starter if you like. Will it change the proportions, probably a little. However, for this blend, probably not a huge deal as the Saccharomyces will be doing a majority of the initial fermenting, and the Brettanomyces will be doing a lot of finishing work,
    such as drying the beer out a little more and producing/modifying flavor compounds. Altering the proportions shouldn't be an earth-shattering blow to the profile that will result. The caution is really more for blends that contain bacteria, which can bloom up and take over pretty quick.”
     
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  20. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Crusader (455) Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    Thanks Jack!

    I saved a copy of it as well, just for reference.

    Its very cool to see some of these new yeast manufactures getting to the market and having success. Hope the trend continues.
     
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