Brew an ESB using Cry Havoc...yes or no?

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  1. Pick

    Pick Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2013 Texas

    The title says it all here, just wondering who has some experience with Cry Havoc yeast strain, from what I've read about fermenting this yeast at ale temps it should lend itself to the English ales.

    Any advise/suggestions are appreciated....thanks in advance.
     
  2. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    There is only one way to find out! I am brewing an ESB this weekend but will use WLP005 in 5 gallons and WLP007 in the other 5. Good luck.
     
  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    In my experience Cry Havoc is very clean and not a real strong attenuator. I recently used it for a Dark Cz. Lager (74% attenuation) and a Black IPA (73%). Both beers were quite good, although I might have preferred a slightly drier BIPA. I've not used it for an ESB, but the attenuation character would probably fit the style. However, I don't think you will get the same English character that you would from WLP002, say.
     
  4. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I used it (we both got it from the same guy, washed) in an APA hop experiment and it fermented quite well at 60 degrees. No ester, no nothing. Just what I wanted. Pick I also have some washed Havoc and Trappist ale for you.
     
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  5. Pick

    Pick Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2013 Texas

    So has anyone ever gotten the fruity pear thing going with Havoc that I have read about? I don't have a means of temp control so I ferment at 68F, think it will have any "English character" at this temp?
     
  6. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Just to point it out...if you mean your ambient temp is 68°, then you're most likely fermenting much higher...say around 75-ish.
     
  7. Pick

    Pick Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2013 Texas

    Yeah I get that John, it is usually around 72-74. Guess I should've specified that 68 is my room temp.
     
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    It will be beer. It probably will be tasty. Maybe even interesting. An ESB with a lager yeast at higher than usual fermentation temps for a lager yeast reminds me of Anchor Steam.
     
  9. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Is it that you just have some Cry Havoc on hand, and are trying to make do?

    I ask because WLP023 Burton Ale would be more suited to your fermentation situation. Optimum ferment range 68-73°.

    Not to dissuade you from using Cry Havoc, homebrewing is about experimentation...but fermenting 15°+ higher than the highest optimum temp would give me pause. Especially when there's a yeast that should work for you.

    Good Luck, whatever you decide to do!
     
  10. Pick

    Pick Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2013 Texas

    Yeah I have some cry havoc that needs to be used and wanted to do something a little different with it by using the high fermentation temp to try to get the fruitiness out of it that i've read about but apparently no one has actually experienced. So maybe I'll use it and report back what I get from it.
     
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