Brew day is approaching. Question about dry hopping

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  1. Goodfriendsbrewingco

    Goodfriendsbrewingco Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2014 Ohio

    When I dry hop during fermentation, will I need a muslin bag to dry hop using hop pellets? Or can I just pitch em into the fermenter?
     
  2. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,763) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    You can just toss them in. Problem with that is they will break apart and it's tough to rack off of them later. You can put them in muslin bag, but particles will still get out .
     
  3. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    Depends on how much emphasis you pklace on clear beer.

    I have found that I get better results when I just toss em in without a bag...although could just be a coincidence and those batches would have been better anyway...but I feel like there's more contact area when just tossed in loose.

    But as JrGtr says above, it can be hard to prevent the hop debris from getting cuked up into your racking cane. If you keg, they can even clog up your pick up tube as happended to me on one batch that I was particluarly careless about when racking...ended up having to transfer the already carbed beer to another keg to serve while I cleaned out the mess.

    I still prefer to just toss em in without a bag though :sunglasses:
     
  4. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,819) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I've done it both ways, but settled on using a nylon bag although some hop debris still manages to escape. A straight toss might give you better oil solubility, but you'll lose some quantity when you rack. If you chill and wait for the hops to settle the hop-aroma-escaping-clock is running, just be aware. HINT: with your pellets use caution to let none of the powdered hop-residue in the fermentor, that is pretty much guaranteed to show up in your brew with or without a bag.
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,363) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I personally use a muslin bag weighed down with marbles to manage hop debris.

    I have read where folks who just throw the pellets in will place a paint strainer bag over there racking can to keep it from getting clogged up during transfers.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. TomFoley

    TomFoley Pundit (945) Mar 19, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I just toss them in, free range hops. When I siphon into the keg, I use a nylon mesh bag to catch the debris.
     
  7. Scope4Beer

    Scope4Beer Zealot (665) Sep 28, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's what I do. I place a 1 gal nylon paint strainer bag over my siphon when I transfer to the bottling bucket. Works very well. Only drawback is it's one more thing I have to sanitize.
     
  8. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (941) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    I just toss them in and then cold crash before transfer to keg. I do the same when I keg hop, I use a ss screen over the pickup tube. First pour is cloudy, but clears up completely by the 3rd or 4th pour and I never get any hop debris.
     
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  9. ssam

    ssam Pundit (973) Dec 2, 2008 California

    How much hops are you going to add? If its less than 2 oz, its perfectly fine to throw them in and it will most likely not cause any problems of clogging or clarity. I don't have much experience using more, but like some others have mentioned covering the racking cane with a grain bag or similar works pretty well and easily to avoid transferring hop debris into the bottling bucket. So, one more vote for "just toss them in".

    Also, if you do end up with more than you like of hop debris in the bottle, refrigeration and a conscientious pour will keep the beer bright in the glass.
     
  10. Goodfriendsbrewingco

    Goodfriendsbrewingco Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2014 Ohio

    I'm using 3 oz of citra hops for the dry hop
     
  11. FFreak

    FFreak Savant (1,065) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    If you toss the pellets directly in, make sure you use a very fine mesh when filtering.

    I recently had a pretty good beer basically ruined when I dry hopped with 3 oz of pellets (Amarillo and Citra) added directly to the fermenter. The hops would NOT drop out, so I tried using a paint strainer bag on the end of the siphon hose to filter the debris when I racked to the bottling bucket. The paint strainer caught some of the debris, but it's not a very fine mesh so a lot of really fine hop sediment got into the bottles and now I have gushers and hop sediment in the glass.

    My most recent batch I compensated by using fine-mesh hop bags both in the boil and dry hopping. That worked great to control the debris, but at the cost of hop utilization. The beer just isn't as hoppy as it should be.

    So I'm tossed up now on what to try next. I'm thinking of trying the pellets direct into the fermenter again, cold crash, and then put the finest mesh bag I have onto the siphon tube while racking. Hopefully that will give good results.
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Brew day + >2 weeks for dryhopping, IMHO (I don't care what Vinnie says :slight_smile:)

    Use a FINE mesh bag, cold crash after 1 week dry hopping @ room temp and keep it cold from there on out...(with the exception of 2 weeks for carbonating (if bottling)...IMHO

    If u dryhop a lot, kegging is the way to go, IMHO
     
  13. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    I use these nylon paint strainer bags and they work great. I use them to strain from fermenter to bucket and for transferring to the bottling bucket when dry hopping. I have never experienced the problems you described and have used them around 30 times when dry hopping.

    http://www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-5-gal-Elastic-Top-Strainers-2-Pack-11573-36WF/202061360
     
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  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I like the paint strainer bag idea, too...just make sure u replace them before they come apart...~6 0r 8 batches for me.
     
  15. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    Forgot to mention I put mine around the bottom of the auto siphon. Not at the end of the hose that is in the bottling bucket. Don't pull it up to tight you want a little bit of space between the tip of the siphon and the bottom of the paint strainer bag.
     
  16. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Do you have a way to cold condition the beer? If so, I think best way is to let fermentation finish, once gravity stable you can just gently add pellets directly to fermenter for 3-7 days and then cold condition. If you cold condition, all the pellets will fall out of suspension to the bottom. That is what works for me.
     
  17. slusk

    slusk Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2009 Virginia

    Bare naked hops for me. Use the bag for the auto siphon. I never get hops in my bottling bucket and never get a clogged siphon. Helps if you also have then end cap for the auto siphon.
     
  18. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,428) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I toss em in, no bag. Then I sanitize and carefully drape a paint strainer bag over my beer when I'm ready to rack, pushing it down with the siphon. You can also wrap your siphon with a paint strainer bag (sanitize whatever you secure it with well, rubber bands are dirty). Works like a champ, minimal hop debris in my beer.
     
  19. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    I do the same and have similar results. I like to believe that the loss of hop resins due to the cold crash is somewhat offset by the gain in extraction due to eliminating the muslin bag.
     
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