Brew Sculptures

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  1. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Anyone have experience with any of the MoreBeer brew stands, or the Ruby Street stands?

    Any others out there that someone can suggest? Ideally would like single tier.

    While I have the ability and equipment to weld up a stand and put something together, I just don't have the time, nor the desire to slowly work on one. Living the American dream of instant gratification I guess. Wanting a turnkey set up mostly. Wanting something easier to store in garage, wheel out and hook up to water and go, or take in the truck to mobile brew days or something.

    In any case- I'm interested in getting a 10, maybe 15 gallon set up. I normally only do 5 gallon batches, but having the ability to brew more would be nice for some recipes, as well as having the ability to really load up the mash tun on a high OG 5 gallon batch.

    Would like the ability to control the mash temp and recirculate it and do step mashes easier, but the price for someo of the digital set ups is daunting.
     
  2. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    I got my three tier from brew stands . com and like it. Will be buying their single tier for my next stand, as I don't need the extra kettles that come with the MoreBeer one, although I think its a great stand.
     
  3. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I looked at those. The price is right for the single tier, and it looks well built and solid. I like that the pumps are included, I'd simply need to add my kettles, and any small things to it and be set.

    If I were to get 3 kettles with all the doodads, I'd be at the $3000 mark. Shipping would be another issue, although I have plenty of shipping dock space, forklifts and all that stuff to get a cheaper freight bill.
     
  4. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    The ruby street seem way overpriced for what they are to me. Morebeer systems have some quirks but are pretty nice overall. My biggest problem with the morebeer systems is that the 10g system seems to be way expensive considering the 20g system is barely more money by comparison. Problem is a 20g system is just too much beer for an active homebrewer to be making imho.
     
  5. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Agreed.. I would toss up the couple hundred for the larger capacity, but I simply wouldn't care to produce 20 gallon of the same beer.. I could fill my keezer in one brew day, with the same beer.. No thanks!

    Ruby street ones aren't terrible looking, I feel like they are thinner metal than others, but I don't know. I know the free shipping and the fact there's a somewhat local place that sells them, is something that has me looking at them, but once I add everything to it, it's just as expensive or more, than the more beer system.

    If I had a bead on some good 15 gallon kettles, with sight guages, valves on them all, I think the brewstand one would be the most economical.
     
  6. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Would these not work for you?
     
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  7. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    The people I know that have these kettles ( https://conical-fermenter.com/10-12-gallon/ ), love them. Next time I come into some money, I've been thinking of upgrading from my MoreBeer kettles (I had extra couplers welded into them) to the Stout kettles.
     
  8. Gman27919

    Gman27919 Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2012

    I built a Beer Tree: very easy welding project (Continuing Ed Class). The Beer Tree was published many moons ago in Beer Techniques as a Gravity system, single upright steel pole, Tee base, rollers for in / out of the Garage.. I have two 15 Gal SS Kegs mounted on top of each other with Gas burners, opposite side has T-bar wood shelf for a large Cooler Mash Tun, Below that, I have the Counterflow chiller and Water Filter, piping, recently bought a moveable pump for filling the Fermenter Carboys as the Boiler Keg output was too slow. but.. Need a grant with my pump as it is hard to get primed?
     
  9. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I looked at them, but I haven't really punched numbers on what the "best buy" would be between them and some others. For $300, they aren't a terrible deal though.
     
  10. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    That sounds exactly like what I don't want. I have no interest in climbing a ladder, or having this high unstable glob of burners and hot liquids.

    Looking for a single tier I think, as if I'm going to spend the money, another $200 for a pump isn't going to break me to add to my other pump and move it all around on the same level.
     
  11. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I looked at those, and keep trying to refrain from looking at them too..


    I'd be $1475 in the hole for the 3 various kettles and all the jazz on them. Love the sanitary fittings and camlocks, the boil kettle is awesome as well.

    $1475 for kettles
    $2000 for stand/pumps/buners/etc


    I'd still have to get plate chiller, and probably some odds and ends to finish it up, whirlpool set up for the kettle.

    I'd probably be right at the $4000 mark with freight/shipping after getting it all together.

    Which is what a one stop shop MoreBeer system would cost roughly.

    However, I think the kettles would be nicer, not sure on the stand, but it's just metal and burners after all. The MoreBeer has an immersion chiller, and I'd rather move to a plate, and install my hopback inline with it.
     
  12. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    I've only oogled over both at NHC...but ultimately if it were me, would opt for the tipy dump MoreBeers sculptures'.
    But obviously that is not single tier...I really like the look & design of the ruby street, and love the fact that it lifts up to fit in a corner of your garage. They also have lots of available add-ons. So maybe i'd go in that direction if i were in your shoes. Best of luck!
     
  13. cfrobrew

    cfrobrew Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2012 Texas

    I like the idea of gravity feeding into the kettle to simplify things. Other than climbing to look in the mash are there reasons to keep away from tippy dumps in your experience? I am working with a friend on planning a brew pub and would like to find a decent size tippy dump but 20 gallons was the biggest I had run across...
     
  14. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    i would talk to chris @ psycho brew to see if he has some ideas since his systems are like 5 bbl, guys on those systems need to figure out how to dump their grains...maybe a hoist?
     
  15. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    It's a lot of dough. Being a MoreBeer kettle owner, I had some issues with the false bottom and had to have some welds done to gain all the functionalities I felt were missing (tangential inlet in boil kettle for whirl pooling; fitting at top of kettle for recirculation in mash). Also, I still have to put a double mesh colander and a muslin bag on the output of the mash tun, before the boil kettle, to catch bits of husk that make it through the false bottom (Annoying). The kettles are good and work well, but I'm looking to upgrade once I get a real job and no longer live off my wife ( :slight_smile: ) and a post docs shitty salary (e.g. poverty level).

    The plate chiller is a great addition, but just beware that whole hops (unless bagged) in the boil are out of the question (if one gets through your chiller is clogged) and that it needs to be cleaned religiously after use. Even after flushing with hot PBW, then hot water, then sanitizing after each batch, I still get some gunk coming out when I repeat the cycle before running wort through in the next batch. Maybe its just my therminator, but its still annoying. Wish I could find a plate chiller that could be taken apart and cleaned like the pros have.

    I still keep my immersion chiller on hand in case of a clogged plate chiller, but when I'm doing 20 gallon batches, the immersion chiller is almost useless (e.g. 1 hour plus chill time even with recirculation).
     
  16. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Scumbag.... :wink:

    Fwiw...i love my blichmann false bottom. Haven't had a stuck sparge since i got it (even with a pump sucking wort out of the MLT)...the flow-thru rate is pretty incredible. To me the false bottom was worth the investment in the boilermaker MLT in the long run...also well engineered so that the dead space is minimized.
     
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  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Thats what I like about the stout kettles designed MLT. Bottom empties, has the built in false bottom.

    Pretty awesome actually. Wish I hadn't ever looked at their stuff.
     
  18. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Wanting to revisit this thread a bit.

    Decided with some life changes taking place, I just dont have the desire or funds to really plop down the mega coin for a prebuilt system and have it shipped.

    I have access to some insanely skilled welders/metal workers, and can get the materials with some nice discounts as far as metal parts go.

    Looking for some assistance in the frame, however- possibly drawings, or measurements? I'm looking to make a simple single tier, add an additional pump to my process, to bring it up to two, and have 3 burners on the stand.

    Probably go with a plate chiller as well.

    Any resources online, or someone have a drawing of a similar set up? Needing to get lengths and such worked out on paper so I can figure out how many sticks of tubing to buy, and then find places to get my burners and whatnot.

    Kettle wise... Blichmann, or Stout I think is what I'm leaning towards.

    Looking to have a HLT with sight guage, and maybe a thermowell, as I'm thinking about getting a electronic set up made if possible to monitor HLT temp, Mash temp for recirculation, and step mashing.

    Mash tun, I'm figuring direct fire, needs to be false bottom, and then the brew kettle, I was thinking about a false bottom as well, and perhaps recirculating the wort in the kettle during the boil if I had to. Anything to keep crap out of pump and fermentors. Want an inlet to whirlpool as well as hook up my hop rocket during the process as well.
     
  19. bevoduz

    bevoduz Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2007 Illinois

    If you don't need new I'm upgrading my 3 keggle system to 30 gallon kettles so selling those soon. I use a drop in herms coil in the hlt, have the best false bottom available, etc...

    Just a thought.
     
  20. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I saw ruby street in action at big brew day last year. While I wasnt brewing on it, it looked like the guys using it had an easy time. The guys using that blichman tower of power on the other hand looked like a monkey... courting a football.
     
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