BrewCipher 3.5

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It was inevitable. No matter how many times I think I'm done.... BrewCipher 3.5 spreadsheet, the Christmas edition, is now up for download.

    New in Version 3.5:
    - Added a Cooling Evaporation Loss parameter per a user request...may be useful to some, but those who have dialed in their boiloff loss without it may want to leave it at 0.
    - Added Bottle Carbonation and Kegging (Forced CO2) calculations.
    - Updated the User Guide


    Feature Recap...
    - Predicts attenuation based not only on yeast strain, but also on mash conditions and grain bill composition
    - Understands that simple sugars are 100% fermentable, and that they are not subject to mash efficiency or yeast strain factors
    - Understands that some gravity contributors are not fermentable at all
    - Accounts explicitly for wort and water losses, and adjusts total water (and related calculations) accordingly
    - Uses a correct Tinseth formula with Avg Boil Gravity in the 'bigness' factor rather than the pre-boil OG (which is both popular and wrong)
    - Incorporates optional Modified Tinseth Formula…
    - Limits IBUs to 110 (solubility limit)
    - Splices new utilization curve to Tinseth utilization curve above 65 IBUs, to more closely agree with actual vs theoretical IBUs measured
    - Adds bitterness contributions for post boil hop additions
    - Hop Utilization Multiplier parameter to fine tune hop utilization to your system​
    - Single infusion batches with single batch sparge, or mashout and lauter, or Brew-In-A-Bag
    - Wort Oxygenation Recommendations
    - Lagering Days Recommendations
    - Highlights any Gravities, ABVs, IBUs, and SRMs that are not within BJCP style guidlelines
    - Computes Diastatic Power for the Mash, and warns when grist's DP is marginal or poor
    - Scales Grain Bill to any desired Original Gravity
    - Calculates Mash pH and results of acid and Brewing Salt Additions, including Sparge Water acidification
    - User Storable Water Profile Input (feature works in Excel, but not Apache Open Office)
    - Predicts Mash Efficiency based on known Efficiency and change in grain weight and/or sparge to no-sparge or vice versa
    - Automatically computes Yeast Starter Volumes, including stepped starters. Supports harvested yeast slurries.
    - Includes an optional, improved ABV calculation
    - Inputs for Post Boil/Post Fermentation gravity and volume data, to compute actual mash efficiency, attenuation, and ABV
    - Converts Refractometer readings Specific Gravity Values
    - Choice of U.S. standard measurements or Metric
    - Choice of Plato or SG gravity measurements
    - Carbonation Calculations
    - More user selectable Brewhouse Parameters than you can shake a stick at (but the defaults will work pretty well for most people too)

    BrewCipher runs in Excel or Apache Open Office. Download it here... BrewCipher V3.5
     
  2. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Actually reading through this list of included features, I may just have to jump ship from my Excel sheet...
     
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  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    Vikeman, maybe it's just me, but when I go to the link above, I do not see the User Guide. Cheers!
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for the heads up. Apparently Google flipped the .PDF file's sharing switch to "off" because the file may violate terms of use (or words to that effect). WTF. So I uploaded it in .DOC format. So you can download a MS Word version of the guide, at least for now. Annoying.

    ETA: It would be better to download the .DOC, open in MS Word, and print from there, rather than print directly from Google Drive, because in Google Drive, the formatting is off, i.e. the display is not correct and there are added, nearly blank, pages.
     
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  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Okay, I should have done this a long time ago... the files are now on dropbox...
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/iuhhxwqdg6thuoo/AADXVPuioUmwDYe5KsDOgt-Wa?dl=0

    I'll also leave them up on Google Docs until the next update. From then on, Google will be history.
     
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  6. jncastillo87

    jncastillo87 Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2013 Texas

    hell yeah
     
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  7. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I'm going to use this for the first time soon I think. Does this program do water profile calculations from RO? I.e. X grams of Gypsum to 6.5 gallons of wort = X Ca , X SO4 ?
     
  8. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    @VikeMan So I worked up a recipe that I have in my Excel sheet. Matched it all up. Here is my issue: I have Kai's Bru'nWater built into my sheet and I am getting different outputs on pH? I did the same additions of CaCl and SO4, dropped the Pickiling Lime, and had to add 1.3ml of Lactic to the mash to get the pH down to 5.5 on yours. Bru'nWater says with same CaCl, SO4, some Lime, and no acid I should be at 5.2. Just wondering if I did something wrong?
     
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  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yep.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Can't say just from the description. If you want, Beermail me and we'll take a look at both actual files and analyze/troubleshoot. For now, all I can say is that I believe @utahbeerdude 's mash pH model (which BrewCipher uses) is superior to the others. But let's see if it's a model difference, or an implementation (BrewCipher) difference, or (longshot) user error.
     
  11. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,540) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    @VikeMan I'll send you both files on Monday (on my work comp). Related question, BrewCipher says to shoot for a pH of 5.4-5.6, while Bru'nWater says 5.3-5.5 (not that it is a huge difference). Wondering what the difference is? Both state at room temp.
     
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  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Just my personal preference, and put there for newbies to have something to shoot for. I would never say that a room temp mash pH of 5.3 is "wrong" if that's someone's preference. I think Kai Troester recommends 5.3-5.6, for example.
     
  13. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    A point of clarification: Brun Water is Martin Brungard's program. Kai Troester has an online calculator at the Brewer's Friend website.

    Generally, I find that Kai's online calculator and my MpH Water Calculator (implemented in BrewCipher) give similar results, while Brun Water is often a tad lower in its mash pH prediction. Sometimes, however, certain grain bills produce substantial differences in predicted pH between the two programs.

    I am always interested when different calculators give vastly different results -- I'd also be happy to look at your recipe (including initial water profile and desired salt additions) to see what is going on.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Just wanted to give a little appreciation to VikeMan for all of his work on this, I realized that I've been using the sheet for exactly one year now and I've managed to hit my numbers and dial in my process significantly based on using the sheet. My beers have taken a significant step forward in the past year and I owe quite a bit of that to BrewCiper.
     
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  15. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    @VikeMan

    Any idea if this will work on an iPad running excel?

    My laptop apparently took a shit today with the screen, and I'm left with my iPad Air at the moment.

    Maybe the move I needed to ditch beersmith, since it's functionality on iPad is junk.
     
  16. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Nevermind..

    For those interested.. the newest download for excel on your iPad will support BrewCipher 3.5..
     
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  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    How much work is it to add the dry yeasts like US05 and such to the calculator?

    And what info would I need to add some grains? I have the little tickets sewn into the bags of my malts.

    Works pretty good, other than the "scale" button doesn't work on an iPad. Perhaps the functionality works if you buy an office 365 membership.
     
  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You can add a yeast strain on the YeastLookup tab. For US05, I'd just copy the information in the 2nd and third columns from Wyeast 1056 or WLP001. To add other strains, you'd have to guess a little for the attenuation factor (second column), and copy from a liquid strain with very similar attenuation. (It's not a straight average attenuation percentage, like you'd get from a manufacturer's website. It's an attenuation factor "relative" to other strains.)

    Grains are on the GrainLookup tab. From the User Guide:

    Grain: Enter the name of the grain or other ingredient in this column.

    PPG: Enter the Points per Pound per Gallon here. This information can often be derived from a malt manufacturer’s spec sheet or a vendor’s website.

    Extraction affected by Mash Efficiency?: Enter “y” for ingredients that go into the mash or for grains that are steeped. Enter “n” for extracts (i.e. pre-mashed ingredients) and sugars/syrups/honeys.

    Basic Attenuation: BrewCipher uses this value in its grist attenuability calculations. Either copy this factor from another, very similar, ingredient or, if in doubt, message VikeMan on Beer Advocate.

    Attenuation Affected by Mash Cond?: Enter “y” for ingredients that go into the mash or for grains that are steeped. Enter “n” for extracts (i.e. pre-mashed ingredients) and sugars/syrups/honeys.

    Lovibond: Enter the Lovibond color of the ingredient. This information can often be found on a malt manufacturer’s spec sheet or a vendor’s website.

    DP: Enter the Diastatic Power (DP) of the ingredient in degrees Lintner. This information is often available on a malt manufacturer’s spec sheet or website. Tip: Ingredients that are not malts always have a DP of 0, as do crystal malts and extracts.

    pH Type (Base, Wheat, Crystal, Roasted, or 0 for non mashed ingredients): Enter the type of ingredient from a mash pH perspective here. There are 5 possibilities:
    Base: In most other contexts, “base malt” means a malt with diastatic power. But in a mash pH context, it means something slightly different. In this context, Base means any ingredient that is not a caramel/crystal malt, not a wheat/spelt grain/malt, not a Roasted Malt (see definition below), and not a non-mashed ingredient (see definition below). Enter a ‘B’ for Base.
    Wheat: Any malted or unmalted wheat or spelt, with the exception of roasted wheat/spelt. Enter a ‘W’ for Wheat.
    Crystal: Any crystal or caramel malt. Enter a ‘C’.
    Roasted: Roasted includes Chocolate malts, Black Malts, Roasted Barley, Carafa Malts, and Roasted/Black Wheat malts. Enter an ‘R’.
    0 for non mashed ingredients: 0 is for any ingredient that can’t normally be used in a mash. It includes extracts (which have been mashed before you buy them) and sugars/syrups/honeys. Enter a (numeric) 0.
    OR - you can always beermail me the grain, and I can derive/provide the info, and add it to the next version at the same time.

    My understanding is that the iPad Excel app doesn't do macros. I blame Apple.
     
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  19. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I wonder if the windows tablets support macros. I use US-05 interchangably with 001 in BrewCipher to good effect.
     
  20. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    thats what i'm doing at the moment. Same attenuation which is all that matters for me at the moment.
     
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