BrewCipher

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    There are a few types of efficiency in all grain brewing. Two of them are Conversion Efficiency and Mash Efficiency. Conversion Efficiency is a measure of how much starch is converted to sugars/dextrins. Mash Efficiency is a measure of how much starch is not only converted, but also how much of the sugars/dextrins make it to the kettle. Mash Efficiency is always lower than Conversion Efficiency, because some of the sugars/dextrins remain in the grain bed or in the mash tun deadspace. (So they "count" for Conversion Efficiency but not for Mash Efficiency.)

    Whether you are mashing out before lautering your first (and only) runnings (i.e. a no-sparge mash/lauter) or draining first runnings and then sparging, you would have similar Conversion Efficiency. But the mash efficiency will be significantly different. And it's because the wort left behind (lost) in the mash tun will be of a higher gravity for the no-sparge than for the sparge, even though the lost volume is the same. It's all about how diluted the wort is during the last runnings. And when you sparge, your last runnings are more dilute. More dilute means less sugars/dextrins left in the mash tun, which means more sugars/dextrins in the kettle.

    So the Mash Efficiency Predictor tab in BrewCipher takes your brewhouse and recipe information, along with your known (recipe entered) mash efficiency, and calculates conversion efficiency behind the scenes. It then does the volume/dilution calculations to determine how your mash efficiency would change if you change from no-sparge to sparge, or vice versa. (And/or if you change the amount of grains....more grains --> more wort volume lost --> lower mash efficiency.)
     
    #41 VikeMan, Apr 6, 2014
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  2. Theortiz01

    Theortiz01 Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    So basically what your saying is, on my next brew I should find out my efficiency and plug it in to the recipe mash efficiency, and if I got that efficiency with a sparge, your tool would let me know what I would get if I did a no sparge instead, is that correct?
     
    #42 Theortiz01, Apr 6, 2014
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yep.
     
    #43 VikeMan, Apr 6, 2014
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  4. Theortiz01

    Theortiz01 Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    Thanks for clarifying!
     
    #44 Theortiz01, Apr 6, 2014
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I have a new version (3.3) ready to go. Unfortunately google docs/google drive has a new bug that won't allow the public to access a directory (regardless of permissions set) without logging in, and don't seem to be in any hurry to fix it. Anyone willing to hang the new version on their server/blogspace for BAs to download?
     
    #45 VikeMan, Apr 7, 2014
  6. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,705) Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
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    Is it just a matter of putting the link on a blog somewhere? I'd be happy to do it provided that it's something that can be done on Blogger without too much technical know-how.
     
    #46 Thorpe429, Apr 7, 2014
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Not just a link. But actually storing the files.
     
    #47 VikeMan, Apr 7, 2014
  8. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,705) Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
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    I will look into this as well. It looks like there are a few places online to do this. If I can find a place that fits within my very basic web understanding, would be very happy to host; it's the least I can do considering how helpful the program has been!
     
    #48 Thorpe429, Apr 7, 2014
  9. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Given the small file size, I'm sure a free dropbox account would more than suffice.
     
    #49 ChrisMyhre, Apr 7, 2014
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks. I'll look into that. I assume it allows public (non logged-in) downloads?
     
    #50 VikeMan, Apr 7, 2014
  11. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,705) Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
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    Dropbox is what I was starting to look into, but that looks like public folders have been done away with unless you're a paying member. I'm looking for other sites that have public downloads for free.
     
    #51 Thorpe429, Apr 7, 2014
  12. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    It does, very similar service to google drive.
     
    #52 ChrisMyhre, Apr 7, 2014
  13. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    Also printing the recipe name near the top.
     
    #53 jmich24, Apr 7, 2014
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'll add to the next version (V3.4).

    The selected Style is printed at the top. Do you mean add a freeform name input to the recipe sheet and print that on the PrintMe sheet?
     
    #54 VikeMan, Apr 7, 2014
  15. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    Yes, easy way to seperate the many IPAs I create. I prefer to keep hard copies of my recipes in a 3 ring binder. Hard drives in my past fail and I have lost a ton of data I'd like to have back. Obviously not a big deal I can't print it in magic marker. Just a suggestion.
     
    #55 jmich24, Apr 8, 2014
  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Okay. Also for V3.4.
     
    #56 VikeMan, Apr 8, 2014
  17. FFreak

    FFreak Savant (1,065) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    I was using v2.0 and just downloaded v3.3. I LOVE the new features! Thanks!

    One thing I do and would suggest for future versions is that I went in and put the names of the yeasts so I can 'try out' different yeasts in the recipe page without having to look up what each one is.

    i.e.:
    Wyeast 1007 - German Ale
    Wyeast 1010 - American Wheat
    Wyeast 1028 - London Ale
    Wyeast 1056 - American Ale
    etc...
     
    #57 FFreak, Apr 22, 2014
  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Okay, probably for V3.4. Or if you happen to have already entered all of them, how about beermailing me so I can get your sheet to C&P from.
     
    #58 VikeMan, Apr 22, 2014
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  19. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

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  20. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    adding new yeast to BC isn't that hard, although, you do need to grab a "random" middle of the road attenuation, which I find good enough, but you can dial it in, if you use it enough.
     
    #60 FATC1TY, Apr 9, 2015
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