Brewer (contract) with no discoverable address?

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  1. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    How would I add this. The beer is real, sees distribution, but I can’t find the physical address anywhere.

    Here is the brewery website:

    http://jpbarbo.com/epitaphe/
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,871) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Isn't that an address on the "3rd" page? (The horizontal page with the bar code on it.)
     
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  3. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Poo-Bah (3,572) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Looks like it to me,but I don't speak dialects of French.
     
  4. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    That is the address of Lagabiere, the brewer that brews the beer for Epitaphe on contract. They are in St. Jean sur Richelieu. I can’t find anything that indicates Epitaphe is in the same city.

    Each image is a label of one of their beers.

    So we use the contract brewer’s address in cases like this? The Facebook page for Epitaphe is no help either.
     
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  5. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (3,871) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Ahhh. Perhaps you could try using Stillwater as a model:

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22150/
     
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  6. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (499) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    I see it right there. It's St Jacques Sainte something or other Quebec. It's right there.
     
  7. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Not sure if serious

    As explained above, the address on the labels on the linked website is for Lagabiere, the brewery contracted by Epitaphe to brew its beer.

    “Brassee et emballee par Lagabiere ...” means brewed and packaged by Lagabiere. This is a common practice in labeling up here for contract beers.
     
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  8. lester619

    lester619 Devotee (499) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    Was it good?
     
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  9. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    It was quite good.
     
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  10. mactrail

    mactrail Poo-Bah (9,168) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    At least there was a happy ending to all this.
     
  11. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Happy ending? I’m not sure. I remain unfulfilled....
     
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  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,429) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I think I'd use a 'care of' address and insert 'c/o Lagabiere Brewerie' plus that address. Adding a Note might also be advisable. If a mod comes in on this thread with other instructions, then I beg off.
     
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  13. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    I think that is what I’ll do. I’ll wait a couple more days to see if I’m instructed otherwise.

    Not logging this beer is killing me.... I may have issues...
     
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  14. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Here is the beer. As noted above, this was a good kveik ipa. I will seek out other beers by this reptile controlled contract brewery.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Disciple (371) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado

    That’s a pretty bitchin label. The reptiles have mad design skills.
     
  16. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Poo-Bah (8,175) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    You can feel free to submit the Place for Approval and leave the address/city/postal code fields blank. As I am not from Quebec (nor have I ever lived there), I am not sure if there is a way to look up the business ownership from the government websites to find an address.
     
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  17. officerbill

    officerbill Aspirant (266) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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    Odd, a whois lookup for the website shows it's been registered since 2004, but literally everything related to the registrant, even their name, is "REDACTED FOR PRIVACY"

    Are you sure this isn't a front company for some intelligence agency?
     
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  18. 400gp

    400gp Initiate (15) May 8, 2019 England

     
  19. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    See above regarding reptile people.
     
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  20. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    I am truly happy I decided to start this thread. It is giving me great joy.
     
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  21. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Ok. I’ll do some more research and go with this should I come up blank.
     
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  22. officerbill

    officerbill Aspirant (266) Feb 9, 2019 New York
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  23. MHeine

    MHeine Initiate (18) Apr 1, 2005 Quebec (Canada)

    Hahahahahah Hi folks. Here is Reptile The First (I'm the one running Épitaphe by itself). I was aware of the thread by an entry on Untappd (thanks, Peter K.), so I thought, if people looking for information won't send a message by Facebook or the Website, they might want me to answer here.

    Ok... just to be clear, I'm not a business nor a brewery. I'm the head brewer at Lagabière (it's been two years, I was running Loup rouge in Sorel-Tracy before that) and Épitaphe is a side project run like a brand. In the future, there would be more beer produced at different places, not just Lagabière as I want the brand to be kinda gypsy. So for now, beers comes out of St Jean sur Richelieu, but might come out of many breweries throughout Quebec. I won't explain much more here as it would be a long post, I'm in the industry for twenty years now (it's on the main website, but yeah... only in French... I got a busy life and run the Website since so many years on my own...).

    I also do a lot of collaborations and since November are now under the same brand name.

    There is no address and the reason is simple, I don't use any other address than my computer's MAC Address and my cellphone's number.

    Oh... and I'm not a reptilian, sorry :slight_frown:

    If ever you have other questions, don't hesitate. I'll try to check out here once in a while.

    Oh... and there's a new one that will be canned Mid-June, called Sankofa.
     
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  24. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (105) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    Cant tell if you got the information you sought but here's this:

    780 Avenue Thomas, Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, QC J2X 5E7, Canada
    &
    167 Rue Richelieu, Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, QC J3B 6X7, Canada
     
  25. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Champion (879) Apr 21, 2014 Ontario (Canada)
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    Excellent!

    I’m thinking much of your reply should be added to the Epitaphe brand information here.

    Thanks for the great beer, both under the Epitaphe and Lagabiere labels.

    Cheers!
     
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  26. elNopalero

    elNopalero Poo-Bah (3,339) Oct 14, 2009 Texas
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    For this post alone I will keep an eye out for your beers!

     
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  27. MHeine

    MHeine Initiate (18) Apr 1, 2005 Quebec (Canada)

    780 Thomas: the microbrewery (shop and retail only).
    167 Richelieu: brewpub, bar and restaurant.

    Each one have brewhouses!

    Cheers :slight_smile:
     
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