Brewing Beer Without Hops

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  1. GHphoto

    GHphoto Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2013 Illinois

  2. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    in the Portland brew dogs episode they brewed a Berliner wies and used foraged herbs instead of hops. can't watch the vid at work but will later
     
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  3. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    So, I take it he's weighing out the minimum legally-required hops at 2:37-2:45, when he also mutters "...slightly less than goes in Bud Light..." and you can hear the pellets hitting the scale?

    Without hops, it can't be labeled and sold as "beer" in the US, as per the TTB's Beverage Alcohol Manual (Vol. 3 - Malt Beverages, Chapter 4):
     
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  5. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Tradish ale, no?
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    That did sound like pellets being weighed, and the Mylar bag in the picture is a give away. He could be using low AA hops.

    I had his redwood tip beer in 2009 at the Oakland NHC. I liked it, it was bitter.
     
  7. GHphoto

    GHphoto Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2013 Illinois

    Laws about beer are dumb.
     
  8. LotsofLupulin

    LotsofLupulin Initiate (0) May 5, 2012 Colorado

    Luckily you don't need a lot of hops for a Berliner Weisse.
     
  9. olekern

    olekern Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2010 California

    Working for Tips is delicious!
     
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  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Moonlight Brewing only kegs beers as far as I know. It is a small operation, just out side of Santa Rosa CA. It can be found in the Bay Area at some places that they self distribute to.
     
  11. Loganyoung

    Loganyoung Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2011 Georgia

    I'm actually brewing a sour in the next week or so that will have no hops at all but I'll be using a cultured sour mix and bottle dregs. A lot of your spontaneously fermented beers are hoped quite heavily to inhibit the growth of bad bacteria and fungi but they use hops aged for quite some time because aging hops lowers the alpha acids and lactobacillus and pediococcus bacteria have a hard time in anything above 8-10 IBU'S. And generally bitter hoppy flavors don't do well in sours.
     
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  12. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    I had this beer recently and it kinda blew me away, kinda like a schwarzbier with some earthy spice but it definitely had the bitterness of a decently hopped beer.
     
  13. Pintofbrown

    Pintofbrown Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2011 Texas

    Or heather ale! And sahti!

    Look at this guy! Reading books and stuff!
     
  14. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    hmmm...this isn't bottled, so I guess labeling is not an issue: http://prismbeer.com/portfolio/death-march/

    I wonder if Yard's Tavern Spruce still has some minimal amount of hops to meet that requirement, their webpage isn't clear. http://www.yardsbrewing.com/ales/ales-of-the-revolution/poor-richards-tavern-spruce
     
  15. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Pooh-Bah (1,975) Feb 24, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Yes use other bitter ingredients such as myrrh which would add a nice earthy bitterness!
     
  16. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    To
    make it seasonal don't forget the gold and frankincense :slight_smile:
     
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  17. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Pooh-Bah (1,975) Feb 24, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    That would be interesting! And I was actually think of gentian root, too for bittering!
     
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