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  1. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    I'm brewing an American Blonde Ale. I wanted something lighter and crisp for the summer.

    10lb Pilsner
    12oz Caramel 10L

    1 oz Glacier @ 60 minutes

    Safbrew S-33 yeast

    I currently have some Kent Golding, Hallertau and Chezch Saaz.

    I do like hops so I'm considering a little addition. I am thinking 1/4oz of Hallertau @15. I figured it would add a little floral tones to it.

    What do you think?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Saaz is nice in a Blonde. I haven't used S-33, so can't comment in that. I would recommend a more characterful base malt and/or some munich. An (american) Blonde is mostly about the malt character.
     
  3. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey


    how much Saaz would you go with and at what point?
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Not a lot. I should have this memorized, because I brewed the same exact recipe four weeks in a row, but I have a very good Blonde recipe, and I'll check the hop additions when I get home.
     
  5. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Aside from the 1 oz Glacier @ 60 min I think I'll go .25 oz Saaz @15
     
  6. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Is this an AG or extract brew?. If it is AG I would suggest you to mash a bit high(156 F). I would not use S-33 for this style, I rather use Nottingham or Windsor.The addition of Vienna and/or Munich malts could benefit this beer enhancing the maltiness. Try to do not add too much bitterness, maltiness is the star in this beer style.
     
  7. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey


    Got it. My mash ended up being about 159 steady for 60 minutes. Would you suggest sticking just with the 1 oz. Glacier at 60 min?
     
  8. ThomP

    ThomP Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Texas

    I agree you should not use the S-33, it has a low attenuation. I do like the Nottingham, but in this case for a blond I would go US-)% all the way. ferment low, ~62F if you can and it will be real clean, almost lagerish. It will extend the fermentation time by a day or three, but worth it.
     
  9. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey


    How about S-04? That's the only other yeast I have and I'm 30 minutes from pitching
     
  10. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I didn´t have good results with S-04. Don´t worry if you must delay 2-3 hs prior pitching, you can get the other yeasts suggested.


    ´Would you suggest sticking just with the 1 oz. Glacier at 60 min?´


    What is your OG ?
     
  11. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey


    Honestly? I'm horrendous at figuring OG, FG, etc so I kind of stopped. I just brew a recipe and taste it when it's ready. I'd love to figure this gravity thing out though.
     
  12. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    See? Still new to AG and I shorted the batch by 3/4 gallon. Got only darn 4.5 gallons into the fermenter. I normally like to get about 5.25 in so I finish with 5. Oh well. I have a reading of 1.053 right now though. Either way it was a cheap recipe.
     
  13. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    It is extremely important that you know these numbers, otherwise you are going to fly blind.You only need an hydrometer, a test tube and a thermometer, cool wort and take a read.Then you must adjust that read in regards wort temperature.


    Assuming you are near 1050 you are going to get something around 19 IBUs adding 1 oz Glacier 5,6 AA% for 60 min.It is a good choice.
     
  14. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey


    Cool. Thanks
     
  15. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Not much to do in terms of figuring it out. Just read the hydrometer.

    Grab a sample, put it in the tube, put your hydro in it, and make sure the sample is at 60*F, or whatever you hydro is rated too.

    Do it before you boil get a reading to find your pre boil OG from the mash. Then get a reading after you've chilled down, that would be your post boil, or your "true" OG.

    Then your FG is the last reading you get after fermentation. Nothing else to do, no real calculating needed for it.

    Take your OG-FG=X and then you can use X*131.25= ABV %.
     
  16. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey


    Ok. So let's say my OG is in fact 1.053. If I happen to get a FG of 1.000 that would mean that .053*131.25 is 6.96, rounded to about 7% alcohol. I guess that's what could potentially happen what my batch is short by about 1/2 gallon.

    Tha me for the help.
     
  17. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I doubt you will get a FG of 1000 because your mashing temp was a bit high, there will be some dextrines remaining in your beer that could lead the FG to be around 1012-1014 .So your ABV% will be in the range of 5,4 - 5,1 aprox.
     
  18. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Oh I definitely get that I won't get 1000. I was just using it as an example. In 2 weeks or so I'll report back on the FG I get.
     
  19. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Correct.

    It's not different than reading a thermostat, or reading a thermometer. Hydrometer is just an instrument that gives you a number.

    You'll learn more by noting all your OG's and FG's. You can take a similar recipe, which you liked but thought it could use less alcohol and more body. You can mash higher get the same OG, and a higher FG, which will lend more sweetness, more body, and less alcohol, obviously.
     
  20. ThomP

    ThomP Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Texas

    I use a freeware program called Q-Brew. it is easy to use, FREE, and works very well. Put you ingredients in and it tells you what your looking at. You method of brewing will be the determining factor, but it will get you ball park numbers to use as a guide for future brewing. There are other programs out there, much more comprehensive, cost money, and require a degree to understand. I prefer simplicity, Once you figure out your average mash extraction, and your fairly consistent, you can predict your numbers fairly well. But if you have a system that works for you, by all means use it.
     
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