Brewing with Brett

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by shortbus7, Nov 21, 2013.

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  1. shortbus7

    shortbus7 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2011 Ohio

    Just recently brewed my first batch with Brett as the primary strain. Used WLP644. Anyway, I made a starter and the fermentation started of great. After about 4 days the fermentation slowed and then seemed to stop around 7-8 days. This is just by watching the airlock, not by taking any gravity readings. However, at about 10 days the airlock started to bubble again and now at 12 days in I am getting 1 bubble about every 6 seconds through the airlock. Anybody seen this before with Brett? Also, I am keeping the temperature between 75 and 77 degrees with a temp controller.
     
  2. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Counting bubbles in the airlock isn't a great way to judge what is happening. That said, it is pretty common for 100% brett beers to drop quickly, then slowly chug away on the more complex dextrins for a few weeks.
     
  3. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    As OldStock said. Take a gravity reading. I've left my 100% Brett beers sit for usually 3 weeks. Two weeks in primary, followed buy usually a week of dry hopping. If your beer gets into the 1.010 to 1.008 range you are usually pretty good. I've had some sitting in bottles warm for almost a year and I haven't had any problems yet. *fingers crossed*
     
  4. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    I did a 100% brett beer with 644 recently as well. OG was 1.056, it got down to 1.020 within 3 days, then slowed to a crawl. Now it seems to be eating veeeeerrrryyyy slowly, with no airlock activity at all. Last reading I took was 1 month in, and it was at 1.015.
     
  5. shortbus7

    shortbus7 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2011 Ohio

    Thanks guys. I have just never seen airlock activity stop for multiple days and then kick back up before, and since I've never brewed with Brett before as a primary, I didn't know if this was common. Plan on 2 weeks in
     
  6. shortbus7

    shortbus7 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2011 Ohio

    Damn phone.

    Anyway, plan on 2 weeks in
     
  7. shortbus7

    shortbus7 Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2011 Ohio

    Again really, sorry.

    2 weeks in primary and 2-3 weeks in secondary while drying with whole leaf hops for the last 10 days.
     
  8. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    With brett, I wouldn't plan on anything without taking gravity readings first. It could take days or months before you reach a gravity low enough to bottle.
     
  9. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I wouldn't say that is necessarily the case when using Brett as a primary strain. In secondary yes it will crawl along for months but when used as a primary strain it can fully attenuate in a few weeks if not days.
     
  10. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    My last 100% brett beer pretty much "stalled" (ok, not stalled, but slowed to a crawl) at 1.020. Fermentation "looked" completed, in that I had very vigorous fermentation for a few days much like what you would expect with a saccharomyces yeast. I would have been sitting on a lot of bottle bombs if I had bottled without taking a gravity reading. My experience with brett has been to expect the unexpected, even when used as primary yeast.
     
  11. doobgoob

    doobgoob Initiate (0) Apr 24, 2010 Texas

    What are people using as pitching rates (i.e., closer to ale or lager rates)? I've had a lot of variation in my 100% brett beers and think part of it might have to do with pitching rates. Also, what other factors influence attenuation in 100% brett beers? I know Chad Yakobson talks about how a lower pH helps. Any others yall know about?
     
  12. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Which strain did you use? And what temperature did you ferment it at?
     
  13. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I tend to use acid malt in all of my Brett beers, but then again I have really alkaline water. I also try to use a higher cell count then regular Sacc.
     
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  14. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    Big healthy starter of 644 pitched at 72 F, rose to 77-78 F during active ferment.
     
  15. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    I wonder if a lower pH would have helped your attenuation.
     
  16. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    Very possibly. Next time I might try a protein rest for 20 minutes to lower pH.

    Having said that, the brett is still happily (albeit slowly) eating away, and I've learned to be patient, so it's all good. :slight_smile:
     
  17. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Does a protein rest lower pH? You could always try acid malt as well.
     
  18. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    I've read that it does.

    I did use 0.25 lbs Weyermann Acidulated in the recipe...
     
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