Broken cans

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mariotanguay, Jul 12, 2016.

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  1. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Not only didn't they replace the can, they wouldn't let me buy the other 3 perfectly good cans in the 4pak, and there were no more 4 paks at that point, so I waited on line for 15 minutes just for one 4pak.

    PS am enjoying beer from the new brewery and cans are fine, beer is stellar.
     
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  2. BeantownBrews

    BeantownBrews Zealot (632) Jun 22, 2016 Massachusetts

    Customer service at mobil ftw. Was the truck still there unloading? If so did they say anything?
     
  3. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    No they do their "release" at noon, well after truck is gone. It was a funny incident with quite a bit more to it than this that shouldn't really take any more time here describing it. My point was only even a brewer well versed in canning can have a problem with a can(s), so it shouldn't be unusual for a smaller/newer canning brewery to have a problem or two also.
     
  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Might also be a troll. They ask either a controversial question or one with very simple solutions, and watch as folks flail on about it for days/weeks. Can be very entertaining sometimes.
     
  5. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I can only speak from experience operating a packaging line at one brewery and our canning speed was such that we could manually handle and oversee the entire process. Our job at all points was to inspect the cans for any sort of possible damage because even the smallest ding on a can can create an issue furthur down the line. I can't speak for how things get mishandled outside of the brewery but inside it. If they appear outside of spec. They get pulled. The hard part to detect actually is what stresses the cans go through while on the canning line itself. If you have any sort strange maneuvering of their actual path. i.e. they get pushed this way or pulled that way. Banged into a railing or If they are off by even a fraction of a hair; they can get pulverized, or get a micro puncture or the top can get a dent or whatever is possible and will probably happen can, and will.
    I must say though. In spite of it being a time sucking pita, and notes a lack of attention to detail by the person on the front of the line. It's really quite an amazing thing to watch a can get ripped to shreds because of bad seam.
     
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  6. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I have had a strange can ONCE. It was pregnant on top. The metal had bent out and up over the place where you pop the top so that it looked like it was about to explode. It was a can of sea hag. i drank it anyway . Was not too fresh but maybe the heat or something did that to that can. The question is what made it do that and do you think it would have exploded from pressure eventually?
     
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  7. djtothemoney

    djtothemoney Zealot (591) Nov 30, 2015 Ohio

    @utopiajane Hard to say. I had two like that, one exploded from just grabbing it, the other maintained pressure.
     
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  8. Lingenbrau

    Lingenbrau Grand Pooh-Bah (4,853) Apr 9, 2011 Oregon
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    I've had a couple half full (or should I say half empty :wink:?) cans before. One from Anderson Valley (Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout), and one from Worthy (Easy Day Kolsch). I think this was more of an assembly line miscue than an actual can faliure. Cheers!

    P.S. What the hell OP!? Gonna chime back in anytime soon?:confused:
     
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  9. HeilanCoo

    HeilanCoo Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2014 North Carolina

    Depends. As I said moisture will cause issues long after it has left the brewery, but I would conjecture that any other flaw that minimizes the integrity of the can would show itself with rough handling at a point before the consumer takes it home. You would be surprised what tortures a pallet of beer goes through during shipping, reallocating at a distributor, being shipped again to retailers, and then stacked, restacked and just generally bashed around by store employees. A weak can will soon spring a leak and be pulled from stock.
    My guess is that you the consumer treat the beer more delicately than anybody else during its production and distribution history.
     
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  10. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Bottles are sounding pretty good right now
     
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  11. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    That would be a QA/QC failure.
    That is truly a shame you got such obvious low fills. I'm actually a bit surprised a place like Worthy which brags on their website what they have and how impressively fast it is and then have something that should be a very OBVIOUS problem and which didn't get caught. I'm also a bit surprised that there isn't some kind of system, or component in place that catches cans that are out of the spec for fill height or weight range. Same with Anderson Valley.
     
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  12. Lingenbrau

    Lingenbrau Grand Pooh-Bah (4,853) Apr 9, 2011 Oregon
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    I still got the Worthy can. I'm gonna bring it with me next time I'm up in Bend, then we'll see how much they brag! Mwwaahahahaha!
     
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