Brown Ale help

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  1. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    Haven't had much experience with brown ales, but I'm starting to think about a recipe for a wedding later this fall. This is just my first shot at throwing stuff into BeerSmith...let me know if this is on the right track.

    9 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)
    2 lbs Victory Malt (25.0 SRM)
    1 lbs Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
    1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM)
    4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM)
    4.0 oz Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM)

    Mash around 153
    Hop early with EKG to about 25 IBU
    Wyeast 1968 London ESB

    Est. OG: 1.057; Est. ABV 5.3

    I'm thinking about mashing some roasted pecans too.
     
  2. Mfedonczak

    Mfedonczak Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2008 Texas

    That's a lot of victory malt. I would back that down to about .5lb along with the carapils as well. Other than that, I like the recipe.
     
  3. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    What do you want this beer to taste like?
     
  4. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I like the idea of 2 lbs of victory malt,i think it is going to impart a nice nutty touch.I would prefer to replace Cara-pils-dextrine with Munich malt and raise mash temp to 155 F.

    Cheers
     
  5. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    Looking for a toasty, nutty brown ale with some sweetness & body, & little hop presence. Maybe like a bigger Southern English brown? I first thought about using the carapils to compensate for the possibility of losing head retention due to using pecans (if I go that route).
     
  6. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I think you don´t need Carapils taking into a count you have enough Crystal 80 in your grain bill,if you mash a bit higher and use a pinch of wheat malt head retention should be ok,IMHO.
     
  7. Bay01

    Bay01 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2008 Illinois


    I agree with this, I would also leave out the chocolate malt and replace with MO - you'll get your SRM's without it and you don't want to get into porter/stout territory with the flavor profile.
     
  8. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I make an regularly make an American Brown and have always used 1/4 lb chocolate or carafa; none of my batches have really strayed into porter territory, but of course the total malt bill will determine that. A malt that you might want to consider rather than the Victory is the British Crisp (I think) brown malt; very toasty flavor -- dark toast; one of my favorites. I have also used American brown, but the British is much more flavorful. I often use about 4 oz in my brown ales. Crisp Amber is similar to the brown, but sort of medium toast; much better (IMO) than Victory.

    The 80 and 120 crystal are good choices, but I'd probably limit the total to about a pound, and also drop the carapils, unless you really want a lot of body.
     
  9. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    Yeah, I'd been considering brown malt. I've got Denny Conn's imp porter in secondary right now, and it has a fair amount. Wasn't sure how much to use in formulating my own recipe, though. I'll fool with that, drop carapils, & reconsider victory.

    As in a pinch literally for the wheat malt? Or a few ounces?
     
  10. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    Moose Drool is a great American Brown and my personal favorite. CYBI interviewed the head brewer and cloned it as their first or second clone in the series.

    CYBI - interview with Big Sky Brewing Co.
    87% Am. 2-row
    10% C80
    2% Chocolate malt
    1% Black patent

    Mash at 152-154 for 60 mins

    OG 1.052
    FG 1.013
    ABV 5.1%
    IBU 26
    SRM 38

    1 oz Kent Goldings (60)
    1 oz Liberty (15)
    1 oz Willamette (5)
    1 oz Liberty (FO)

    Fuller's stain yeast (WLP002)
    Ferment 66-67
    Diaceytal rest at 70 for 2 days
     
  11. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    I disagree, personally I think a touch of roasted grain is pretty imperative in making a brown ale taste like a brown ale, and a few oz of chocolate malt isn't going to turn a beer into a porter/stout.
     
  12. dmamiano

    dmamiano Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2005 West Virginia

    A recipe I have used many times that makes a nice brown. Of course this is grain bill only.
    9 lbs Pale malt
    1/2 lb crystal 60
    1/2 lb. chocolate malt
    1/2 lb. brown malt
    I like to mash this around 150 degrees.
    Gives a nice color and body and stray away from the porter/stout
     
  13. america2021

    america2021 Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2009 New York

    brewed this 2 weeks ago. still in primary but samples are promising. og 1.060 targeting 45 ibu for an american brown. mashed 154. very happy with the amount of chocolate, love the color. your results may vary if using more/darker crystal but i agree that some chocolate malt won't be detrimental. i'd also recommend toasted oats :slight_smile:

    50% American Two-row Pale
    25% marris otter
    8% Flaked Oats (toasted)
    5% Crystal 60L
    4% Carafoam
    4% Chocolate Malt
    2% Molasses
    2% Brown Sugar

    good luck
     
  14. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    I think the malt bill looks like it will make a tasty beer. I would skip the nuts though, don't think you need them. I'd also consider shooting for a lower OG, maybe 1.048. I find that my browns in the 1.040's seem to be better crowd pleasers than bigger browns. I'd also give it plenty of time to rest before the wedding. IMO browns benefit from a few extra weeks of resting in the keg or bottle.
     
  15. Bay01

    Bay01 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2008 Illinois


    You are correct as usual, just personal preference from a guy who doesn't dig Porter or any roastiness in his brown ales.
     
  16. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    Wedding is 1st weekend of October, and I plan to brew Monday or Tuesday...that should get me there, right? I'll be kegging this.

    Thanks everybody for the thoughts and recipes.
     
  17. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    here is a recipe I have used twice, both times it came out great. The last time I brewed it was for a wedding and it was a big hit. I like to let this beer condition in bottles for 4-6 weeks rather than the standard 2 weeks.

    7lbs MO
    1lb Flaked Wheat
    0.5 lb Crystal 60L
    0.5 lb Chocolate
    0.25 lb Roasted Barley
    0.125lb Biscuit

    5 AAU Fuggles @ 60
    5 AAU EKG @ 15

    Nottingham dry yeast

    I have also used brown sugar for priming sugar

    Mashed @ 152
    OG 1.050
    FG 1.012
    5% ABV

    If brewed this next week, it should be in bottles around Sept 3rd, which would give it plenty of time to condition in the bottles.
     
  18. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    Yeah, it should be in great shape by then. Good Luck.
     
  19. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    Wouldn't he get plenty of roasty flavor from Victory?
     
  20. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Not really. Victory is not a roasted malt.
     
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