Brown "Champagne" Type Bottles

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Anyone know a source of brown "champagne" style bottles, i.e. with punted bottoms? Or if not with punted bottoms, at least rated for champagne-like CO2 levels? TIA!
     
  2. riptorn

    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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    I don’t know if he works directly with champagne, but @VitisVinifera is closely associated with a winery and might be able to provide some info on brown bottles that will withstand your high-pressure beer.
     
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  3. VitisVinifera

    VitisVinifera Pundit (879) Feb 25, 2013 California

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  4. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

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    riptorn Pooh-Bah (1,776) Apr 26, 2018 Georgia
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  6. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    They do indeed have punts. They also sell thick glass Belgian style bottles without punts, that I have used with beers north of 3 volumes of CO2.
     
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    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    So, I bought these bottles and will be using them in a couple of weeks. When you used them, did you use a wing capper? If so, did you reverse the "blades" (or whatever the term is) that hold the bottle's neck, to use the ends with the bigger openings?
     
  8. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Okay, so here’s what’s interesting/odd about that. The first few times I used them I did the reverse plates on the wing capper business. They crimped okay but sometimes required multiple attempts to seal in a way that I deemed acceptable. Then during another bottling day with a later batch I had an extremely hard time with them (and a few other sized Belgian bottles). I was able to cap them all but it was a fight. After that I bought a bench capper and they’ve been a breeze. It would have probably been more helpful if I had mentioned this before you purchased them, and for that I apologize. Hopefully you won’t deal with any complications.
     
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    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I know a couple people with bench cappers, so I may have options. Do you know the model you have?
     
  10. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I got the Colt Strong High Pressure Bench Bottle Capper. Once you get used to the force required to cap bottles it’s a breeze.
     
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  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    PSA: The 750 ml amber, punted bottles from Maryland Homebrew have a neck inner diameter that is not big enough to add Domino Dots for priming. I had to break/crush them to get them in. Thinking about this (20/20 hindsight), this is probably true of any thick walled bottle that accepts standard caps.
     
  12. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I'm sorry that you experienced bottling day frustration (been there, unfortunately). Were you able to rectify the situation without too much trouble?
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It wasn't too bad. Jammed them through with the (sanitized) tweezers I was using to pick them up. There were definitely some sugar shards flying.
     
  14. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    Does the Domino dots work as well as buying the priming sugar sold at my homebrew shop that I have to boil and add to the bottling bucket?
     
  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Domino dots are sucrose (aka table sugar). The priming sugar you're buying at the LHBS is glucose (aka dextrose, i.e. corn sugar). Both kinds can be used for carbonating. An advantage to the dots is that if the amount you need per bottle happens to be a whole number of dots (cubes), it's easy to get bottle to bottle consistency, which is something some people struggle with when adding sugar to a bottling bucket (due to uneven distribution). A disadvantage of adding solid sugar directly to a bottle is a slightly increased chance of contamination, though I can't recall hearing of any cases where a contamination was attributed to it.

    ETA: It's interesting to note that yeast use glucose directly, but when sucrose is the sugar, they first have to break it down into its components, i.e. glucose and fructose. So metabolically, corn sugar is "easier" for yeast to deal with.
     
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  16. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    I microwave them on a plate for 3 mins. Believe they got to 150 degs.
     
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  17. Jasonja1474

    Jasonja1474 Savant (1,100) Oct 15, 2018 Tennessee
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    Wow thanks for the info. I may try that on my next bottling day
     
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