Bruery Infection

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  1. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    What's up guys . Just wanted to get your feedback on a issue I have come to expect now when I try non sour beers by the Bruery. The last 3 non sour Bruery beers I have had have all been sour. White Chocolate, Ebony and Oak and Mrs Stoutfire. I do really enjoy the Bruery sours that they make but if you are expecting to drink a non sour beer and what you get is infected its pretty disappointing. When doing sour beers there is always a risk of infecting your brew house so its not all that surprising that this is has happened but what is surprising to me is how regularly it has happened. So my question is , Has anyone else experienced this when it comes to The Bruery or have I just had some recent bad luck. Cheers
     
  2. hoppytobehere

    hoppytobehere Champion (826) Aug 10, 2012 District of Columbia

    Contact Bruery and give them as much information as you can (bottling code, where you purchased it, etc). I'm sure they'd appreciate it, and you might even get some free stuff.
     
  3. Lordquackingstic

    Lordquackingstic Disciple (346) Jun 14, 2011 New York
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    When buying any expensive beer (aka all of The Bruery's beers) I do some research to see if it has a chance of being infected. It's pretty well known that 2013 White Chocolate and Ebony and Oak were infected, both of them being recalled (and White Chocolate subsequently being put back for sale online with them adding in the description that it's tart and more dry compared to last year). As far as Mrs. Stoutfire goes, never heard anything about it being infected. I would just wait some time before purchasing a bottle from them to see if there are reports of it being infected. Just do your research and you should be fine. I've had a bunch of their beers and haven't had an infected one yet.
     
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  4. imperialbeerdude

    imperialbeerdude Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Colorado

    I agree I had some beers from them, oude tarte and sour in the rye and they were sour!!!
     
  5. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    Sour in the rye and Oude Tart are supposed to be sour (if you weren't being sarcastic)
     
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  6. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    I got Ebony and Oak plus Mrs Stoutfire as extras . I usually do take a look at the reviews and take that into consideration.
     
  7. vacax

    vacax Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2008 California

    Ebony and Oak the Bruery recalled/refunded any purchases made.
    White Chocolate they say it overcarbonated and tart but not actually infected.
    First I've heard any reports of Mrs. Stoutfire. It is a very smokey beer, is it possible that is what you're picking up?
     
  8. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    No man it was not the smoke. I like a good smokey beer from time to time. This poured fairly thin with a bunch of carbonation that fizzed out really quickly leaving almost no head. smell was of smoke and apple cider vinegar . Taste sharp, acidic, and tart.
     
  9. tsauce2

    tsauce2 Zealot (562) Oct 12, 2011 Indiana
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    Anyone know how the Bruery separates their sour/non-sour production areas?
     
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  10. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    That's what I was curious about as well
     
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  11. haknort

    haknort Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Just tried Cacaonut and it was a drain pour. Definitely infected.
     
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  12. barleywinefiend

    barleywinefiend Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Washington
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    Really.? Mine was awesome. This is the first time I've heard of this being infected.
     
  13. sludgegnome

    sludgegnome Disciple (374) Mar 26, 2011 Pennsylvania

    My experience has been if you pour in the yeast it will have a tart sourish flavor. Never had an off breuery beer. I am at this very moment drinking bois, I got last pour def got a bunch of yeast . It, thanks to the sediment has a slight sourness to it that doesn't show up in the other pours.
     
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  14. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    I left the yeast sediment behind. Wich I do in pretty much all beer styles except for Heffeweizen's or unless the bottle states to . Believe me when I say these beers where no doubt sour
     
  15. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    I have had black Tuesday and Fruet before and they were not infected at all but this was last year. Since then, the 3 non soured Bruey beers I have had were all infected.
     
  16. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    I have Mash, Mash and Grind and Chocolate Rain in the cellar now so hopefully they're not infected. I like the Bruery's beers so I'm not trying to put them down just wondering how many people have had similar issues with their non soured stuff
     
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  17. sludgegnome

    sludgegnome Disciple (374) Mar 26, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Serious bummer!
     
  18. IAmJacksHopTongue

    IAmJacksHopTongue Initiate (100) Jan 19, 2013 Indiana
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    Ironically, I used my apology coupon from the infected Ebony and Oak to buy another bottle of White Chocolate. Haven't had it yet, but couldn't fricken believe it when I read that it might be infected too.

    Although I kind of liked the sour Ebony and Oak.
     
  19. Beeranator

    Beeranator Aspirant (240) Feb 8, 2013 North Carolina

    I had a 13 white chocolate at a tasting and it was definitely infected!
     
  20. EWR2STL

    EWR2STL Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2013 Missouri

    Scary - I've got 3 bottles of this years Black Tuesday on its way to me... I'd be bummed beyond belief if they were infected.
     
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  21. SLOCruzin

    SLOCruzin Initiate (170) Sep 30, 2013 California
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    Had the accidentally soured Autumn Maple last year, it was pretty tasty stuff! But that was a cheap bottle. I can see how an expensive bottle that's infected would piss you off.
     
  22. JWD

    JWD Aspirant (227) Dec 7, 2005 California

    I can tell you that the 13 BT is tasting very good fresh.. I rarely age beers and have never had any issues, I worry that a slight infection may worsen with age..
     
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  23. JWD

    JWD Aspirant (227) Dec 7, 2005 California

    Just to clarify my last post, in no way am I saying that there is anything wrong with the 13 BT... Great beer. I don't age any barrel beer much more than a year.
     
  24. vacax

    vacax Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2008 California

    The line from The Bruery is that this year's Oak Sap is tart but not infected. This means White Chocolate or Melange 3 or Cacaonut are going to be tart but not actually infected.
     
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  25. JOrtt

    JOrtt Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2012 North Carolina

    I'm with you. 13 BT is ABSOLUTELY not infected. This beer is tasting excellent right now. I'm two bottles in of my three...I don't age either JWD.
     
  26. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Aspirant (226) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    This poses an obvious dilemma for anything that sells out quickly.
     
  27. Lordquackingstic

    Lordquackingstic Disciple (346) Jun 14, 2011 New York
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    Good point. I guess you sadly have to take a risk at that point and hope it's not infected, and if it is, hope that they make up for it somehow.
     
  28. Preluderl

    Preluderl Zealot (504) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    This is probably a stupid question but I don't know much about infected beers. If an infection occurred does that mean that the entire batch is infected or is it possible for it to be isolated to some bottles?
     
  29. williamjbauer

    williamjbauer Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2012 Colorado

    It depends if the blend they entire batch with the infected barrels or not. Typically breweries do multiple batches and dump infected barrels if identified early. Bruery has had some bad luck lately or just being careless.
     
  30. TommyLiam

    TommyLiam Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2013 Arizona

    It's incredibly unacceptable that a brewery charging artisan prices like Bruery would ship infected beer. There's a level of hubris at that brewery that defies description.
     
  31. the_trystero

    the_trystero Disciple (355) Mar 19, 2013 California
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    No, it suffers from the same White Oak Sap as White Chocolate, so it's slightly tart.

    The only confirmed infected beer this year was Ebony and Oak, and I actually liked it.

    Mash, Mash and Grind, Chocolate Rain, BT, they're all fine.
     
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  32. BAstoutsNsours

    BAstoutsNsours Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Florida

    Did you do the test? Always do the test before you buy imo
     
  33. the_trystero

    the_trystero Disciple (355) Mar 19, 2013 California
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    I hope Melange 3 isn't overly tart like WC. Cacaonut was more reasonable but I'd like to taste no tartness in the M3.
     
  34. Giantspace

    Giantspace Champion (822) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I just Emailed them the other day. Bought a bottle of Mischief a few weeks ago and it was flat. No date on the bottle anywhere. I was told Sorry but if you did not buy the beer from our store we cant do anything, sounds like it was real old, we will look into this. I was also told they laser etch all bottles with a date now. The bottles I saw today had no dates either. I understand its an $8 bottle but it was bad. I do not have my receipt so I cant make an attempt to return an empty bottle as the Bruery told me I should try to do.

    Oh well. I will spend my money on other beers. Just picked up a six of Bells Old stock for less than 2 bottles of Mischief.

    Enjoy
     
  35. solo103

    solo103 Disciple (330) Apr 8, 2012 Florida
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    Extras man
     
  36. CheftoDeath

    CheftoDeath Initiate (0) May 27, 2013 New Jersey

    just tapped a tradewinds tripel that was a foam monster nothing could calm this boy down something was def wrong with the batch.
     
  37. rolltide8425

    rolltide8425 Meyvn (1,274) Feb 18, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Glad to hear this as I have a bottle headed my way soon.
     
  38. m34josh

    m34josh Initiate (91) Oct 19, 2009 California
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    At least The Bruery will happily give you a refund for your troubles. Most breweries would deny it, or say it was the customers fault for storing it wrong.
     
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  39. TommyLiam

    TommyLiam Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2013 Arizona

    Good on them but replacing or refunding a defective product isn't exactly groundbreaking; it's something that should be expected.

    In almost any business the separation between the aspiring and the big time is quality control. Could you imagine Firestone Walker or Sam Adams or Sierra Nevada letting not one but several lines of beer go out the door infected these days, much less without a recall? I know these are big time breweries but if you're expecting people to be dropping between twelve and forty bucks per 750ml off the strength of your brand I'd say that this stuff is out of bounds.

    Getting infected beer used to be part of the deal with craft but patience is rightfully running out with a lot of people, myself included.
     
  40. haknort

    haknort Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    This wasn't slightly tart. It was vinegar strained through an old gym sock. I've had plenty of White Chocolate, and the Cocaonut was definitely off.
     
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