bubbles forming in my draft line

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by ronobvious2, Nov 1, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Noticed that my latest pours from my Pliny clone have a crapload of foam. 2-3 days ago I noticed that enough air had gotten into my liquid line that it was noticeable. I also noticed small bubbles coming up from the quick disconnect area and traveling up the line. There is no leaking of fluid from the tap. The keg post has a new o-ring so that can't be it. I might have a new poppet valve in there too but I won't be sure until it's time to clean it.

    I bought a new liquid quick disconnect and that didn't help. The keg is light so it is near time for it to kick. Perhaps this is the problem. I've turned the gas off and purged the keg until I hear some advice. I figure there is excessive pressure somehow, but I've not adjusted the temperature or pressure from the regulator.
     
  2. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah

    Not knowing your set up, it sounds like the lines are warming and perhaps you are getting the co2 to come out of solution while it sits in the lines.
     
  3. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    almost certainly your line is too warm.
    check the temp of the first pour. then check the temp of the second pour. if they are not exactly the same then you can be certain. this is a very common problem.

    warm liquid holds less gas. the bubbles are CO2 gas coming out of solution. it is very unlikely you have air entering the line. if you have a place for air to enter, then you a place for beer under pressure to escape. so unless you have a leak, it's not air entering your line.
    Cheers.
     
  4. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    No, my kegs, draft lines are all in the the keezer. I open the keezer, grab a line, pour, put everything back where it was. The lines are all kept in the keezer. The bubbles are coming from the bottom part of the line, like they're coming out of the keg, like they're coming up the liquid dip tube.
     
  5. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    you have CO2 coming out of solution.
    1. check your temps. the keezer is not a uniform temp from top to bottom. if the temp probe has been moved, that is your problem. you may very well have some other problem, but since bubbles in your dispense line are the result of gas coming out of solution, rule out temperature variation.

    2. did you change the pressure on the regulator? is the regulator working properly? if the pressure has been reduced gas will equilibrate to the lower pressure within the keg. you will have gas bubbles creeping up the line as you describe. be sure your regulator is ok.

    Cheers.
     
  6. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah


    You can't have an air leak in your line without liquid coming out, it would get pushed out your keg before it managed to get in the line.

    It's co2 coming out of solution. I'm assuming you have picnic taps. They are getting warm or you have a change in pressure somehow.
     
    cfrobrew and inchrisin like this.
  7. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
    Trader

    One other possible source of the problem... solid crud collecting in the dip tubes or lines. Solids may form nucleation sites for CO2 to cause a foam up. Try cleaning the lines with PBW then flushing with water.

    I've had the bubbling issue before with my beer gun, even with new lines. To get around it I pre filled the line with Starsan (diluted in water) and assembled the picnic tap, line and beer connection in the star san solution making sure to get no bubbles in the line and then sealed it. After I hooked it up and ran it, no bubbles in the line.
     
    Drankenstein and inchrisin like this.
  8. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    A general setup for kegging is 5-10 feet of line, (3/16"ID), 10-15 PSI, 40-45F, and a 10-12 second pour. You'll pour from about 18-24" from the center of the keg.

    If you are getting foamy, it's time to turn up the cold, and or turn down the PSI. Try one or the other before both and find something that works well for your kegs.
     
  9. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    5" of line, 10lb, 38F. My pours haven't been a problem until VERY recently. Been smooth sailin' until now.

    This keg is near the end anyway. I'm *maybe* liking the idea of solid crud. I'm sure there's some trub in there somewhere, and maybe the dwindling supply is causing some disturbance. My glasses have been very clear too until now. The clearest beer I've had, in fact.
     
  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    When cleaning the keg out, run some hot BLC or Oxyclean through the line. See how it runs and trace back to the tap. Good luck.
     
  11. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    38 in the kegerator.
    what is the temp in the glass?
     
  12. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    I use in-keezer cooled glasses, so the temp is unchanged. BTW, last night I purged my keg and shut off the gas. I got a clean pour today.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.