Budweiser 1933 Prohibition Repeal

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by cid71, Oct 23, 2017.

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  1. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    Don't really know what bud is thinking here.

    It's been sold out in my area for weeks, maybe even dating back to Christmas time. As far as I know, it was a one time only type of seasonal. It's probably the only product in my local distributors arsenal that they get asked about constantly. Who else asks about regular ol bud? They seem to know what I'm asking before I even ask.

    I guess it sold well in parts and other areas it's sitting? If they are losing market share, they really need to refine this delivery and allocation process.

    My father (in his 70s) hasn't had a regular ol bud/lite since the mid 90s. He went through 3 six packs from early November to early December, and he was wantinf more. Searched 6 different places at the time, no luck. People actually want your product 20 years removed from drinking your other stuff and you treat the whole process like this?

    It's sad.
     
  2. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    If he liked it that much you may want to try some of the Vienna lagers available from craft breweries, some of them labelled as Mexican lagers. That is what this one reminded me of when I tried it. I'm guessing there may be a few available in New Mexico.
     
  3. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    I hope I never get too old to hunt all over the city (any city) for beer.
     
  4. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Frankly, I'm often puzzled by "buds" marketing strategy. They have a number of products that, at least to my eye, appear to compete largely only with other bud products (I honestly have no idea how one chooses between a delightful glass of National Lite and the cup of bliss otherwise known as Busch lite). I keep on thinking that they're going to cull the herd one of these days, and maybe limit themselves to two or three entries in the light lager swill category (BA data base shows 10 or 11 of them at present). Maybe that would increase overall sales in the remaining line-up, and perhaps even free up some brewing capacity for things like B1933.

    Quick story (to illustrate my point). Many years ago, back when InBev-AB was just plain old AB, AB experimented with a "craft" line-up under the pseudo brewery name of Elk Mountain (I think there was a EM red and EM amber). I first saw it on a menu at a café in North Lake Tahoe, and just assumed it was some new microbrewery (back in those days - early 90's - it seemed like a new brewpub or microbrewery was opening every month in California). I ordered a glass and was very impressed, It was delicious. I asked the waiter if he could check the keg to see where it came from (who had made it), and he came back and told me "AB." The café had several AB products on the menu, so I just assumed he must have looked at the wrong keg. The waiter laughed and assured me it was the correct keg, noting that the same thought had crossed his mind, and so he double checked to make sure he had the right keg. Then as now, I was no big fan of AB products, but even so, I felt I had to call a spade a spade. The beer I tasted was quite good (and so I vowed to keep an eye out for it, and to look for it at my local store).

    This is where things get weird (and where my story becomes at least somewhat relevant to your post). I think I saw EM a couple of more times over the next few months, but that was it. Given that the beer was made by AB, with all their brewing capacity, and given that it was obviously superior (at least I thought so) to every other beer they'd ever made, I couldn't believe the market wasn't flooded with the stuff. As it turned out, I went to the GABF that year (94), and planned to stop by the AB booth and inquire about EM, assuming it was there at the fest. Unfortunately, they weren't pouring EM at the AB booth (though they had the whole line-up of "pre prohibition" beers available to sample), but then of all things, I ran into an entirely separate EM booth elsewhere in the auditorium. Some young woman was pouring beer at the EM booth (she was the only person there), and I went right up to her, gushing about the beer and what a triumph this was for AB (IMHO). It became obvious very quickly that she was not the least bit pleased that I was aware the beer was made by AB, and became very sarcastic and nasty when I told her how impressed I was that AB could make a beer like that.

    I think a year or so later I read in the Celebrator that AB planned to discontinue the EM line-up, apparently due to lagging sales. A thousand different "actual" reasons came to mind at the time, but to this day I wonder about AB's decision to make a beer like EM, and their reasons for not trying harder to promote the beer. Anyway, your comments and observations about B1933 immediately put me in mind of EM. :sunglasses:
     
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  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Busch Light, Natural Light and Michelob Ultra all are Top 10 beers, each selling a little over 6 million barrels each (drops in the bucket compared to Bud Light's 35m bbl., but that's still one damn big bucket).

    Whatever the particular "market segments" each one sells to (some obvious, others=?), I imagine that AB figures if they dropped one, some of those six million barrels might spill into MillerCoors column under of their numerous "light beers".
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    I'd also guess that AB's bean counters are wearing their little green visors hunched over at their tall desks in a damp St. Louis cellar trying to figure out what the final tally was on this beer to tell their Brazilian overlords. If it really sold well, I can't imagine that it wouldn't be back.

    I kinda think they went with the "limited time availability" given the recent results with other Bud/Bud Light line extensions - flood the market, sells like mad for a year and then drop like a stone. So, maybe they're trying to build a market first this time around.
     
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  6. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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  7. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Understood and completely agree, but you do have to wonder at what point does a brewery decide they've reach the point of diminishing returns. Arguably, AB-Inbev could grab even more market share from Miller/Coors if they produced a half dozen more lite beers, but at some point the amount of gain would likely be negated by the cannibalization they would start seeing from other brands under the AB-InBev umbrella. The net gain simply wouldn't offset the net loss and increased expenses they were incurring.

    My point was to suggest that perhaps the saturation point has already been reached, and that perhaps the savings achieved by brand consolidation might offset any market share loss they might experience (which frankly, I expect would likely be pretty minor, though of course there's probably no way to be absolutely sure of that).

    If memory serves, there was considerable speculation about what would happen at AB once it was absorbed by InBev. Many folks speculated that with possible duplicate and triplicate offering now in various style niches, it would make sense for AB-InBev to consolidate brands at some point (I know I certainly expected this to happen). Granted, my impression is largely based on what I've read and seen online, but that really doesn't seem to have happened. At least not to any great degree.
     
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  8. CB_Michigan

    CB_Michigan Pooh-Bah (1,552) Sep 4, 2014 Illinois
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    Elmwood Park and I think they had it at River Grove as well. But that was way back in early Dec. I think, based on when I made that post. I saw it at a few different Jewel stores near me, too. Didn't seem like it was especially hard to find. Honestly, you didn't miss out on too much. It was decent, kinda like a slightly less flavorful and somewhat thinner Fat Tire. I'd probably put it on par with Trader Joe's Josephsbrau Vienna Lager.
     
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  9. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I never saw it anywhere up Nort' here -- Jewel or otherwise.
    Considering I think TJ's Vienna (Gordon Biersch's Märzen relabeled for TJ's) is a pretty good rendition of a Vienna Amber, now I have to wonder what I might have missed.
     
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