Building a baseline off the shelf

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Psychmusic, Jul 24, 2012.

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  1. Psychmusic

    Psychmusic Pundit (992) Jun 22, 2012 Massachusetts

    Going through these threads its really easy to get caught up in super hyped beers, super limited releases, and all sorts of funky and odd variations on classic styles.

    As (relative) n00b, though, I'm really looking to get a better sense of all the different styles that are available, and to develop a more "refined palate" (or at least figure out exactly what I'm looking for).

    I'm sure this MUST be on here SOMEWHERE, and if it is feel free to tell me I'm an idiot and point me to it- but I'd really love to hear everyone's input on what you think are the best examples of any given style that are somewhat easy to find off the shelf at a decent bottle shop.

    Just to toss out a few examples (and do feel free to tell me I'm wrong and suggest some of your own)

    Quad- St. Bernardus 12 is a GREAT quad that I see all over the place now, and is a good standard against which other quads can be compared

    Again, I'm not looking for the #1 Stout in the world, just a really solid great example of a style that someone could easily find to build up a better background.
     
  2. Brianhophead

    Brianhophead Initiate (0) May 16, 2007 Canada (AB)

    Let's see, this is just sort of off the top of my head and without knowing what's available in your region of the world.
    Stout: Beamish and Murphy's are woefully underrated. If you can find 'em, try 'em.
    Russian Imperial Stout: Old Rasputin is awesome, AWESOME I TELLS YA!! as is Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout.
    Bitter: Fuller's ESB, Fuller's London Pride, Marston's Pedigree, and Samuel Smith Old Brewery Pale Ale are all great.
    English Brown Ale: A lot of people go after Newcastle, but I honestly think Samuel Smith is far better.
    IPA: Again, Samuel Smith but also Twisted Thistle.
    American IPA: Anchor Liberty Ale
    Barley Wine: Fuller's Vintage Ale, Burly Wine (From Half Pints Brewing) Train Wreck, Demeter's Harvest

    That's off the top of my head. I'll pop in later and add more to the list for you
     
  3. bozodogbreath

    bozodogbreath Savant (1,128) Oct 19, 2006 Indiana
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    Sierra Nevada Stout is widely available and at a very reasonable. It is a very good stout. As Brainhophead said, Old Rasputin is an excelllent Imperial Stout that is also widely available and sold at a very reasonable price. Anything that Samuel Smith brews is going to be a very good baseline in which to judge a style. They area world class brewer that doesn't break the bank. Their Nut Brown Ale is top of the heap. Enjoy!
     
  4. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    I don't think anyone here can tell you what styles you should drink.
    I would suggest two methoods:
    1) Find a store that sells singles. Make up a couple of mixed sixes. Just sample what they have and find a couple of styles tat you like. Than try more of those styles.
    2) Pick a couple of breweries that distribute in your area and try each of the styles they offer. I would suggest Stone, Founders, Lagunitas, Rogue, Troegs and Victory.
     
  5. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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  6. TheMultiYeast

    TheMultiYeast Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2011 Vermont

    I'm having a hard time offering suggestions when I don't know what you like. Instead of trying a billion different styles from here and there, I think the best way to refine your palate is to stick with one style you really like and drink the hell out of it. Soon, you'll start to notice subtleties in taste and smell and so on..I've been doing this with IPAs/IIPAs and I think it's been paying off. Cheers!
     
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  7. lucas1801

    lucas1801 Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2012 Massachusetts

    Stouts: As mentioned Old Raspy. I would also add Ipswich Oatmeal Stou and Sam Smith oatmeal stout.
    IPA: Torpedo, Sculpin, Lagunitas and some Bear Republic offerings should be easy to find.
    Saison: Saison Dupont, Jack D'or, Hennepin
    Trappist: Rochefort 8 or 10, Ommegang Abbey ale, Chimay(any)

    Just go try something new with each trip to the store and you will find your way.
     
  8. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    OP where are you from?
    Sierra Nevada
     
  9. ledzeppelin4

    ledzeppelin4 Initiate (0) May 18, 2011 Illinois

    Hefeweizen: Weihenstephaner Hefe Weissbier
    Witbier: Hoegaarden
    American Pale Ale: Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
    Trippel: Unibroue La Fin du Monde
     
  10. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    you're in RI.

    go to Nikki's, ask for the following:

    Jack D'or
    Grey Sail Flagship
    Aecht Schlenkerla Helles Lagerbier
    Ayinger Weizenbock
    leipziger Gose
    Sculpin IPA / Ghandi BOt (if in stock)
    Allagash Curieux
    Drie Fontien Oude Gueuze
    Draeckenier (if in stock)
    North Coast Old Stock
    Smuttynose Finestkind (my favorite)
    North Coast Old Rasputin


    I'm in RI too. There's a few of us around. Send me a message, let's meet up and crack some beers sometime.
     
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  11. nicnut45

    nicnut45 Zealot (671) Jan 6, 2007 Illinois

    Check out BJCP.org (Beer Judge Certification Program) This is the certification course that people study to become beer judges. Under every style guideline they will give you a couple of the most appropriate commercial examples for a particular style. If you want to figure out exactly what you should be looking for in a certain style of beer, the BJCP study guide will give you exactly that.
     
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  12. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    The Beers of Fame list is what you are looking for, I would guess you'd be able to get at least 50 of these beers off the shelf and cheap where you're at.

    This is the only list that a noob should be worried about, too many people dive in waaay too fast into the hyped, difficult to get, and expensive beers.

    http://beeradvocate.com/lists/fame
     
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  13. knightlypint

    knightlypint Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2012 New Jersey

    Just go down to the store and buy different beers.

    When I first discovered how diverse beer selection is I tried different styles just because I had never tasted them before, simple as that. No consultation. Exercising your freedom will likely lead to a more rewarding experience.

    The limiting factors on your freedom to choose are availability, quality, and price.
     
  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    If you look at "Beer Styles" in the Education section of the home page, click the link. You'll see a list of styles as categorized on this site.

    If you pick a style you can click the link and read about it and look at the list. The list is ordered by number of reviews, which will be sort of related to availability. Or if you like you can click on the link on that page to get a list of examples from that style ordered by their combined review score from the BAs who've had and reviewed those beers. Make a list. Go shopping! Enjoy!
     
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