Burping Bottles

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  1. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I've got an imperial stout that's too carbonated for the style. It's been in the bottle for about 5 months now. I'm not worried about gushers, bottle bombs or anything like that, because the beer tastes great. I'd just like to tone the carbonation down some. FG was good – 1.016 from an OG of 1.090. I added 3.25 oz of brown sugar at bottling, shooting for around 2 volumes CO2. The carbonation right now seems like it's around saison-ish level.

    Anyways, I'm debating prying these open to let out some gas and then re-capping them....or should I just leave these be. Not sure if it's even worth it or not. I'm planning on cellaring these for quite some time after burping the batch, so would oxygenation begin to creep in?

    Anyone done this before with success?

    Thanks
     
  2. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Maybe try one, let it sit a couple days, and see if it is worth the trouble.
     
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  3. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Yea, I did that and it seemed to work. I guess the real question is if oxygenation would creep in or not, but that would take longer than just a few days..
     
  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    You could also poor and just be patient before drinking. Letting it warm up a bit might be an added benefit.
     
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  5. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    @kellyst yea I did notice if I swirl it in the glass, it releases some of the carbonation as well. That, and a vigorous pour into the glass
     
  6. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but I would just not worry about it. You could do as stated above and pour and be patient to let it warm up. I don't really see this as being a problem if you're not entering it in a competition.
     
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  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    the old KISS adage applies here.
    the risk of messing with what is good may very result in something that is worse. any treatment a packaged beer receives should be done with caution.

    another adage, if it ain't broke don't fix it. given that this beer tastes great, I can't really see any good reason to introduce oxygen\, end up with flat beer or possibly both.

    that is my opinion.
    Cheers.
     
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  8. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    @CADETS3 @billandsuz thanks guys. It's the worrier in me that wants to keep tampering with stuff when it doesn't need tampering.. Just seeing if anyone's done this before, and if it worked. This gives me more of a reason to let my beer mellow out and warm up a little.
     
  9. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I'll take the other side on this one: I've re-capped bottles before with good results. If you're really over carb'ed, the only thing that's gonna happen when you pop a cap is CO2 escaping the headspace. I've never had trouble with oxidation, but my results have been over 1 - 2 months, not long term like a stout.
     
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  10. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    You could cold storage them in a fridge to prevent them carbonating anymore.
     
  11. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    It has been 5 months, it is probably done carbonating. It sounds like he isnt worried about more carbonation, he is just not happy where the carbonation is at the moment.
     
  12. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    I had an overcarbed batch a while back (underestimated the amount of sediment). I burped the bottles to let the headspace clear and recapped. The 7th or 8th bottle ended up exploding as I gave it a little torque with my red baron capper to re-seal. Luckily, a broken thumb knuckle and a nice cut was the worst of it. My bottles were gushers, which doesn't sound like you have, but it's something to keep in mind.
     
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  13. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    My bad, forgot that part. ​
     
  14. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Thanks all. I had taken a few bottles to a local brewery/home brew shop and they all sampled it. Their only criticism was that it was too carbonated for the style, which I agreed. Was trying to think of a way to reduce the carbonation and this came to mind. I may consider trying it on a few to see how they hold up over time. The rest I'll just leave as is.
     
  15. mbbransc

    mbbransc Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 North Carolina

    I burped a case of dubbel about a year ago. Ever so slightly pried at the cap, let it sit, pry again, then put it back in the case. They went from gushers to glorious. I have about a 6pk left and all have been fine since.
     
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  16. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Good to know they've been sitting a year and are still tasting great. Like @PortLargo said, it makes sense, since CO2 is escaping the headspace and keeping oxygen out. So did you just pry off each cap, let sit open for a few minutes, and then re-cap?
     
  17. GUNSLINGER

    GUNSLINGER Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2013 Colorado

    I've popped caps and re-capped right afterwards with no issues. Had one or two that I over carbonated in the past and just relieving the head space and recapping did the trick both times. One I aged for over a year afterwards in the beer cellar and it was okay.

    If I were you I would try this with a sixer or so and let them sit for a month or two and taste. Go from there if you want to do more.
     
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  18. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I found it took at least a couple of minutes to make a difference. If you're going from something like 3.0v to 2.0 you have to let a lot of bubbles escape. Pretty sure you know to have everything chilled before you start. If want to be more scientific, get something like a Weihenstephaner and conduct an experiment. Also, if your OP level remains high (oxidized paranoia) you could delay the entire process for XX months until just before you're ready to quaff 'em.
     
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  19. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've never tried this. I don't think you'll get a lot of carbonation out without agitating the RIS (after opening it).

    You could chill the beer to about 32F. Pour as normal. Let the beer warm to cellar temp (55Fish) and drink it after it's had time to breathe a few bubbles out.
     
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  20. AlHounos

    AlHounos Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2015 California

    I've done the same, with an overcarbed RIS like you.
    I didn't totally remove the caps, I just pried them till they hissed and the beer foamed up to just below the cap (this is at room temp), then I released the cap and it sealed itself again. I did this several times with each bottle until the foam started rising considerably slower.
    It was a bit of hassle, but not a huge deal, and it really saved the batch. A fizzy RIS is no good.
     
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