Buying a beer cellar

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by supersly52, Oct 26, 2013.

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  1. supersly52

    supersly52 Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2013 Iowa

    I'm looking for any advice on purchasing a cellar for some bottles I want to hold anywhere from 12+ bombers for collaring that will keep a constant temperature.....I have friends who have bought wine bottle portable cellar units that seem to work good but just want some advice on here. Budget is 500 or less, thanks!
     
  2. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Get a cheap mini fridge or even better a chest freezer on craigslist and get a temp control unit for it.
     
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  3. hogrider

    hogrider Zealot (721) Dec 9, 2010 Florida

    Those units are called a Keezer and are fantastic; it holds five Cornelius kegs plus you can use it to store yeast and some bottles of brew. There are some helpful vids on You Tube on how to build one. HOG
     
  4. JasonLovesBeer

    JasonLovesBeer Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2013 Canada (BC)

    Go as big as you can, because you'll grow into it quickly. Mine's a Magic Chef 4.7L 'beverage center' which is just their wine fridge with glass shelves swapped in. It was a great value for the size and holds cellar temps well. For 500 you could get something a little nicer in that size range. Holds around 45-60 bottles comfortably depending on size distribution.
     
  5. leonardwl

    leonardwl Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2011 Minnesota

  6. Drankenstein

    Drankenstein Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2013 Kansas

    OP never mentions homebrewing, yet you recommend him a keezer (a chest freezer repurposed to serve draft beer)? Makes sense. :astonished:

    That's like...shit, I can't even think of an analogy that's more out of line.
     
  7. supersly52

    supersly52 Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2013 Iowa

    Drankenstein - kind of my thoughts but I just appreciated someone answering my question! I've posted another forum and it has dissappeared both times with no responses!
     
  8. hogrider

    hogrider Zealot (721) Dec 9, 2010 Florida

    @Drankenstein:
    Let me point to a couple of erroneous assumption in your post, and one mistake on mine:
    1- I was not responding to the OP, but rather to Paulys55 later part of his post and I quote: “a chest freezer on Craig’s list with a temp control unit for it” That is a Keezer and I was expanding on his post.
    2- Yes, Keezers are generally used to store Cornelius kegs; but I have also seen them used to store bottled beer; yeast; and fermenters (when fermenting lagers at lower temps)
    As to my mistake….I made a point a long time ago not to post anything on forums because often times I came across AH like you. My late posting proves this point. HOG.
     
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  9. Texan956

    Texan956 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2013 Texas

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  10. Nrhurd

    Nrhurd Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 Illinois

    Interested in this too. Have about 20 bombers and 15 12 oz bottles to cellar.
     
  11. Dave2234

    Dave2234 Savant (1,094) Aug 20, 2013 Minnesota

    I've only had this for a couple months, but it was fairly cheap for the capacity and seems to do the trick. I pulled out the extra half-shelf on the bottom (to make more room to put bombers and bottle conditioned beers upright). The door is glass but I cut a piece of black tagboard to fit (held in place by the glass-side of the door gasket).

    http://www.kenmore.com/kenmore-33-bottle-wine-chiller-black/p-04699269000P
     
  12. drgonzo2k2

    drgonzo2k2 Pundit (909) Aug 24, 2012 Missouri

    Hey, here's a link to a post on my setup in another thread. I'm terribly happy with it, I still get notes/questions on this post from people every month, and a few people have even sent me pics of their recreation of my setup.

    @baybassboy also has an excellent writeup on his chest freezer setup in that same thread.

    My suggestion as far as wine coolers is to watch out as you really get what you pay for. The ones linked here from WalMart are just terrible. Generally they have a pretty huge temperature variation from top shelf to bottom shelf, and they seem to allow for more flexibility on how far off temp they will go before kicking on than we get with the Johnson regulators.

    I wound up getting a very nice 45 bottle wine cooler for my in-house "to be drank soon" fridge, and it took me forever to find a setting that I was okay with that didn't make the beers on the top shelf too warm or the ones on the bottom shelf too cold.

    Just let me know if you have any questions, happy to help!
     
  13. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Laying beer on it's side doesn't make a difference. There are many people on both sides of this argument but I've never noticed a difference. The ONLY concern I could think of would be that yeast would build up on the one side, but still not a big deal.
     
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  14. drgonzo2k2

    drgonzo2k2 Pundit (909) Aug 24, 2012 Missouri

    Truth.
     
  15. Texan956

    Texan956 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2013 Texas

    Interesting, thats the first time Ive heard that. You dont think that they yeast and other ingredients might wear off/out the inside of the cap though?
     
  16. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Nope, not at all. I have found a few breweries...Great Divide *cough*...that will get rusty caps, but it's still not a huge deal. Keep in mind a lot of beers filter or fine so there is not much yeast in the bottle. A lot of beers that are good candidates for aging tend to be bottle conditioned though.
     
  17. Texan956

    Texan956 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2013 Texas

    Would the fact that a certain beer is NOT bottle conditioned, make it last less? And well I usually store my beers upright so I havent had a chance to experiment and see if they are affected by sitting them on their side. Only time they go on their side is when I stick on in the freezer for quick cooling. Sometimes Ive noticed blurriness (best way I can explain it), or fuzziness on the cap, so I always thought all the lore about storing beer like wine being a big no, no. Ill keep that in mind then if I ever need to rest them on their side. Now that I think about it actually Ive shipped beer a few times, and they usually last 3 - 5 days in the box, and theyre always on their side, and Ive never gotten any complaints, so that adds to that issue.
     
  18. HawkeyeNation

    HawkeyeNation Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2013 Iowa

    I usually store corked beers on their side, because you really need to keep the cork moist to let it work properly. That, and they're too tall to fit with my other bottles.
     
  19. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    that theory holds up with WINE, sure, because you have to drill into the cork and a dry, crumbly one makes for a disaster with aging bottles.

    but with beer, which all have champagne-style pop corks? it's ludicrous. those corks are already designed to PREVENT moisture from getting in/out, what makes you think they're going to "absorb" liquid from inside the bottle and stay "moist?"
     
  20. HawkeyeNation

    HawkeyeNation Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2013 Iowa

    Cork is cork. Pretty sure they don't make "corks for wine" and "corks for beer." We've definitely had a couple bottles where cork had gotten into the beer after opening at bottle shares because they've dried out with some cellaring. And FYI, not all corked beers use champagne styles. I've ran across a couple where the bottles have been both corked and capped.
     
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