Buying Hops Directly from the Farmers

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  1. Kiah_H

    Kiah_H Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2014 Montana

    Hey BeerAdvocate Community!

    I recently started getting into home brewing and looking at ways to purchase hops besides from my local shop. Is there a few websites that you would recommend for this and possibly ways to purchase directly from boutique farmers?

    Thanks!
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    HopsDirect comes to mind. They are an actual hop farm, but also sell imported hops.
     
  3. rynegne

    rynegne Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 Illinois

    I just bought from Hop Head Farms; nice product and super fast shipping.
     
  4. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    If you're just getting into home brewing...buying from boutique hop farmers probably t'ain't the best way to go.
    Boutique hop farmers...such as they are...offer only whole leaf hops.

    IMNSHO...noobrewers should stick with pellets which means your LHBS is the best way to go for the time being.
     
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  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've had success with http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/hops/ and they have a fair amount of other stuff that you can add to a hop order. I don't think they go over on their quantities like some places. Does hopsdirect still give you 20 oz for a purchased pound?
     
  6. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Depends on varietal. Citra and Amarillo that they don't grow is real close and last year I was shorted on Citra and got a bunch of dust.

    The stuff they grow usually comes in slightly heavy. 18-22 seem to be ball parks.
     
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  7. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I like hops direct. Farmhouse and have had good luck with Yakima Valley hops as well.

    I brew with a lot of whole leaf so I like freshops as well. Prices are the best but some of the best quality hops of the bunch I think.
     
  8. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    Uhh... thats not true at all. One example:

    Hopsdirect: http://www.hopsdirect.com/pellet-hops/
     
  9. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Not to jump on the bandwagon, but I usually get my bulk hops from Hops Direct. (I am in Washington State btw.) I usually buy aged hops from Fresh Hops, ironically.
     
  10. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    [QUOTE="HerbMeowing, post: 2812957, member: 524034"noobrewers should stick with pellets[/QUOTE]

    Wondering why?
     
  11. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    I was just the opposite. I went from leaf as a beginner to almost exclusively pellets (leaf now solely in the hopback and in the keg). Leaf are easier to strain out with a funnel and course filter, have lower utilization (how many new brewers over bitter their beer... I know I did), etc. so I'm puzzled as well (maybe poor storage??).
     
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  12. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    my advice is to read up on AA%. it not overly complex but knowing your AA% is required. if your supplier can give you some idea of what you are working with then great. otherwise plan to have your beers all over the place. i am all for local but mystery AA% is just not negotiable. you simply can not brew with anything approaching consistency or even drinkable without knowing the AA% of the hops you are using. this is not negotiable and is also a major obstacle for ma+pa farmers.

    so get some local hops wherever you can, just know that they are very often an unknown ingredient.
    Cheers.
     
  13. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'm happy with pellets.
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'm not sure why billandsuz brought this up, but it's spot on. I have relatively recent experience where the two biggest homebrew suppliers (AFIK) in the country (not ma + pa) had no idea about the specs on the hops they were selling. I hope they fixed that, but I moved on to other suppliers.
     
  15. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    If you're talking about NB and MW, I also stopped using them because they stopped vacuum sealing or nitrogen flushing the hops that they re-package from bulk. At least MW had, and since they have merged...

    I guess that isn't entirely pertinent to the original discussion, but it may be something to consider.
     
  16. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    HerbMeowing said:
    If you're just getting into home brewing...buying from boutique hop farmers probably t'ain't the best way to go.
    Boutique hop farmers...such as they are...offer only whole leaf hops.

    The only way it's not true is if a 700 acre hop farm can considered a boutique operation.
     
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    For what it's worth, an NB employee just told me they are nitrogen flushing.
     
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  18. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Yeah, but I believe it was you that changed my mind about that fact when a Midwest employee told me the same thing.

    Odd that they'd be packaging differently. I really don't understand the business relationship those two companies have.
     
  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Yep, several months ago they told me they stopped doing it, now they tell me they are. Perhaps they changed?

    My understanding is that they are basically just different store fronts of the same company. They share the same warehouse and they supply the same things.
     
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