California Tasting rooms

I'm guessing there is a difference in coding between a brewery tasting room and what is essentially a bar (bottle shop with taps) in the eyes of most cities.

 

This is actually a good point, and could be what differentiates the two. Although that still doesn't really explain Drakes' tasting room...

 

With regards to Drakes, I was going to guess earlier that it had something to do with the strip mall location and the zoning issues that come along with that but I really have no idea.

 

It's probably some crazy, non-sensical reason. I'll ask them why when I finally get around to paying them a visit.

 

As a parent of a 4 year old, I find this sign hilarious and quite effective.

 

Tickers gonna tick.

 

What is the "brewpub"? They have their pub, and they have their brewery (where you fill your growlers and buy bottles). Different animals.

 

Did she have nice tits?

 

http://www.abc.ca.gov/questions/licenses_faq.html

Q. 8. What is meant by "public premises"?
A. No person under 21 years of age is allowed on public premises.
There are two classes of public premises:

1. As to on-sale general and on-sale beer and wine licenses, this means premises maintained and operated for the sale and service of alcoholic beverages to the public for consumption on the premises, and in which food is not sold or served to the public as in a bona fide eating place, although food products may be sold or served incidentally to the sale or service of alcoholic beverages. = no kids
2. As to on-sale beer licenses, this means premises maintained and operated for sale or service of beer to the public for consumption on the premises, and in which no food is sold or served. An on-sale beer licensed premises on which food (sandwiches, hamburgers, hot dogs, pizza, tacos, salads or similar short orders) is prepared and sold for consumption on the premises is not an on-sale beer public premises. (Section 23029 and Rule 67.1) = kids okay.

 

Correct, Drake's is 21+ only, although I am not sure about the patio.

Some places allow under 21 while food is being served, but convert to 21+ only when the kitchen closes (which usually seems to be 9pm or 10pm)

State law does not prohibit under 21 from going to a brewery, so ones that do either do it by their own choice (most likely) or by some local ordinance (which sounds rare to me). I am curious to know what breweries do not allow under 21.

 

One of my favorite signs ever.

 

They may have needed a conditional use permit I think that's the deal with Eagle rock

 

Drake's is completely 21+ including the patio.

 

You guys are looking at the wrong license. The breweries are all a type 01 or 23 license (those that are tasting room only and not restaurants) and they all allow minors. The decision not to allow minors is one that the brewery makes itself.

Type 01 - "BEER MANUFACTURER - (Large Brewery) Authorizes the sale of beer to any person holding a license
authorizing the sale of beer, and to consumers for consumption on or off the manufacturer’s licensed
premises. Without any additional licenses, may sell beer and wine, regardless of source, to consumers for
consumption at a bona fide public eating place on the manufacturer’s licensed premises or at a bona fide
eating place contiguous to the manufacturer’s licensed premises. May conduct beer tastings under
specified conditions (Section 23357.3). Minors are allowed on the premises."

Type 23 - "SMALL BEER MANUFACTURER - (Brew Pub or Micro-brewery) Authorizes the same privileges and
restrictions as a Type 01. A brewpub is typically a very small brewery with a restaurant. A micro-brewery
is a small-scale brewery operation that typically is dedicated solely to the production of specialty beers,
although some do have a restaurant or pub on their manufacturing plant."

Even (most?) breweries with a kitchen have this license, they will also have others that will allow sale of outside beer and/or hard alcohol.

I would argue that Drake's has its own policy regarding minors.

 

This is from the California ABC site, and explains a little more:
Q. 79. May a minor enter and remain in a licensed premises even though the minor does not purchase or consume any alcoholic beverages?
A. Not if the premises are licensed as an on-sale general public premises, on-sale beer and wine public premises or on-sale beer public premises. There are no restrictions regarding minors entering or remaining on premises licensed for off-sale of alcoholic beverages or premises licensed and maintained and operated as a bona fide public eating place. (Section 25665)

 

I don't know the deal with drake's, but local Zoning /entitlement can override what you are allowed to do, so it may or may not be up to the brewery to make that decision.

 

That is a fact.

 

This is spot on. The state Law establishes the minimum requirements that must be followed but the local municipalities have land use authority and can be more stringent than the base State requirements.

 

Will the tasting room fill an unlabeled stainless steel growler if my kid asks nicely?