Canadian Macro Lagers

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  1. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    It’s funny. I went to school for some time about 20 minutes from the Vermont border. We would do the same; head down on a Tuesday night for a cheap movie and dinner and come back with a case of cheap beer. I remember Busch being particularly cheap. Also, one of my first craft experiences in the US was accidentally having some Magic Hat at their hard launch in Burlington.

    Laurentide was my go to for several years when it became impossible to find Dow anywhere other than the odd convenience store. If memory serves, the bulk of the marketing was to French Quebec. I liked it, but half the reason I drank it was nobody else ever brought it to a party. I could always tell if someone was stealing my beer.
     
  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Yeah, Labatt '50' Ale was pretty commonly found in import-heavy markets in US by the 1980s (made it to California). Note the major difference in packaging...:thinking_face: not just the different label or IMPORTED on the neck label.:rolling_eyes:

    USA:
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    CANADA:
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    More Labatt trivia: Labatt Beer was brewed and canned by General Brewing Corp. (Lucky Lager) in the 1960s, when the Canadian brewery owned a controlling share of General and it was also apparently imported in bulk and canned by Latrobe (Rolling Rock) in PA, around 2005 when both breweries were owned by InBev (Labatt had bought Latrobe in the late 1980s).
     
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  3. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    That US labeling would have been a hard sell in 80’s Quebec with the ‘Canadian Ale’ descriptor and red maple leaf logo on the label, not to mention illegal with the “ ‘s” at the end of Labatt.

    I used to have a belt buckle with the ‘50’ label in the latter photo. I need to dig that up.
     
  4. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    I can not begin to tell you how many of those brown bottles I pounded in my younger days.

    Beer identity in Canada (80s - early 90s) was really centered around 2 types... you either drank Labatt or you drank Molson. Everything else was an anomally.. Heineken Lowenbrau... etc..

    There was a Labatt plant that eventually closed in my city. I had a great story from my computer professor who actually worked at that brewery plant before he started teaching at the college. He told us stories that for managment to get the IT (info tech) employees to stay late on fixes, or work to be done... the company would offer them a case of beer to take home as an incentive. HA HA! gotta love it... what a time..!
     
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  5. KentT

    KentT Pundit (839) Oct 15, 2008 Tennessee

    The only current Molson product I can get in Tennessee is Golden. And I have liked it for many years, and still have a soft spot for it on occasion. It's flavor is excellent for a macrobrew, and distinctive. It's malty note is something I love, smooth and rich.
     
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  6. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Listed as Molson Golden Ale, no less.

    Does the LCBO typically sell the products of the Canadian macro breweries? I thought that market was served by the Ontario "Beer Store".
     
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  8. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    The LCBO has always had macros, but only as singles or 6-packs. I think this has opened up a bit but I haven’t paid enough attention to the macro offerings there. With the opening of sales at grocery stores a couple years ago, there was a thought it would change further, but The Beer Store seems to be the only place you can buy 12 and 24 packs still. so most of it is sold there.

    Whenever Molson brings out a retro beer it seems to have an LCBO placement. This one for instance.

    https://www.canadianbeernews.com/20...-archival-series-with-1908-historic-pale-ale/
     
  9. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Very interesting. I've seen Labatt 50 at stores in Pennsylvania but this is like 2-3 years ago. I believe it's still around.


    Has Alpine ever made it to the US before? Interesting looking label. I wouldn't mind trying it.
     
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  10. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    I hated Canadian Macros when l lived in Montreal in the mid-2000. Labatt bleu, Molson and Wildcat...

    Speaking of Wildcat this beer might the the one giving me the worst hangover in all my life:

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    (Maybe retired now)

    But then I spoke to various bartenders in bars whether Québécois or Anglo who introduced me to Unibroue which was already around. (Dieu du ciel! I don’t remember).

    Love Canada, Love the people in general but not their Macros.

    PS: Their craft beer scene is 2020 is pretty solid though Unibroue and DdC aside.
     
  11. Coronaeus

    Coronaeus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,744) Apr 21, 2014 Canada (ON)
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    Wildcat is/was brutal, those high ABV varieties in particular. The one that used to kill me in mid-nineties was Molson XXX.

    https://www.thebeerstore.ca/beers/molson-xxx/

    We used to drink a bunch of those very quickly before heading out to the bars to save some money. The headache would last into the following evening.

    Quebec has some of the best breweries in the country. I’m hoping no one south of the border ever discovers Brasserie du Bas Canada. They seem to have very quickly become the leaders here in Pastry Stouts and Hazy IPAs. Messorem Bracitorum in Montreal is another that is getting rave reviews. Maltstrom for lagers and Sir John and Nouvelle France for IPAs seem to be getting good press. Of course Auval for Saisons and sour stuff too. Hard to get though being so far from civilization. Lots of great ones.
     
  12. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    Definitely drank Moosehead back in the eighties. Began taking annual ski trips to BC in the nineties, and can remember drinking Kokanee and Island Lager. Eventually we started smuggling beers north because of the sad selection up there. We did the math and realized we could bring 4 Anchor Christmas magnums one year. The border patrol thought they had the bust of the century ("couldn't be beer ay") but had to admit defeat. Good thing they didn't find the baggie of mother nature stashed in a ski bag on top :astonished:
     
  13. hoagzzz

    hoagzzz Zealot (682) Feb 28, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Grab a moose and get loose! Solid marketing.. anyone remember Grizzly, maybe 1990??
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Safe to say you are not a fan of AAL beers in general?

    Cheers!
     
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  15. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Not at all.
     
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  16. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Interesting. By the 2000s, Labatt/InBev was still exporting it to the US but had pretty much dropped the "50" term (well, it's there in "fine print") and calling it just "Canadian Ale".

    NAB/Fifco, owner of the brand in the US post-AB/InBev merger, has brewed a number of Labatt-branded beers (other than Blue/Blue Light) at their Genesee brewery in Rochester - apparently a US-brewed "Labatt 50" was one of them.

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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Well, needless to say I was 'off the mark' here.

    Do you have AAL favorites? Any 'trend' as regards nationality (e.g., like Mexican brewed AALs, dislike American brewed AALs, love Carling Lager from the UK, etc.).

    Cheers!
     
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  18. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Jack,

    I read the other thread about AAL and didn’t want to add more “hatred” for that genre.

    I dislike Bud, Bud light, Millers... however many people vouch for what seems to be likeable Hamms or Yuengling... I’ve never had them and might like them.

    I like other (and different) Lager or Pils though, Urquell, Cigar City Lager which are very good.

    Hope I answered your question. Cheers!
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    :confused:

    You specifically stated you dislike Bud, Bud light, Millers?

    You then mention that you like Pilsner Urquell (a Pilsner) and Cigar City Lager (a Helles).

    But no mention of an AAL brand that you do like.

    You might enjoy Hamm's or Yuengling Traditional Lager (which are both adjunct lagers) but you have never actually tasted them so...

    Is there an AAL beer that you have actually tasted and that you liked?

    Cheers!
     
  20. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    Sorry about erroneous styles, thought they were close enough (to me) but not to an eagle eye like you :wink:. I still would love to try a cheap, low abv AAL I’d maybe enjoy.

    Yes, because of their ratings and reviews here that are anything but terrible. :slight_smile:

    Not yet but I promise to keep an open mind about it. :grinning:
     
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