Canceling an Open Trade (Feedback Wanted)

I like #3 but perhaps the window could shortened to a smaller time frame? #1 might allow someone that knows they cheated/stole from someone to agree to a trade, get their beer and then cancel the trade before the trade partner is able to give negative feedback.

The third option would purge open trades after say 30 days in which time anyone that is suspicious would be able to tag the trade as negative if they haven't received their beer or had contact with the sender.

 

I'd be fine with 3 as well after 30 days... I think #2 would also work too.... and option #3 could be a backup.... Say.... if both traders agree to cancel the trade then it can be cancelled, but if not then it'll be removed after 30 days or so... option #1 would not work at all in my opinion...

 

I think I like this idea as well. One person can agree to cancel the trade. The other person has 30 days to agree at which point the trade would be cancelled. If person #2 doesn't agree to cancel it, after 30 days the trade would cancel through BA codes.

 

I dont like option # 1 at all. This allows a bad trader to cancel a trade and not give the aggrieved trader the option of leaving bad feedback. # 3 also gives the bad trader the option to ride out a bad trade and avoid negative feedback.

# 2 is the best option.

Thanks for your attention in enhancing the site and the trading system.

 

Yep, you are right. The problem is that without intervention from a 3rd party, trades can remain in limbo. Problem is the bad trader can abuse the system to their advantage and avoid the negative feedback or drag the non-bad trader down into the mud.

 

2, once each party agrees to a trade, then each party should agree on canceling the trade

 

I like the idea of #2, as well as any penalties. Not even sure what such penalties are, but if you are a responsible trader it shouldn't matter.

Thanks in advance for any improvements...certainly a different site than when I joined, always gonna be likes/dislikes but there have been a ton of enhancements over the last 6-12 months. Appreciate the hard work, and willingness to seek the opinions of the members.

 

I currently have 5 open trades. 4 of them were in person trades at Dark Lord Day. 2 of those trades my partner and I were unable to work out an in person meeting... sucked but whatever, that's kind of how things go when you're at a fest with that many people and that much beer. The other 2 were completed, I left feedback and am waiting for it... I would love to have the feedback/get credit for the trade because they wen't off without a hitch. The 5th open is for a trade pending. It will be complete and closed we within 30 days.

I would like to be able to wipe out the two that never happened but not sure a penalty of any sort would be warranted in my case. Maybe the non-responder would be the penalized one? So I would initiate the cancellation, my partner would have up to 30 days to accept the cancellation and if they failed to do so the trade would auto-cancel.

Another scenario, I have one set up to exchanges bottles with someone coming through my town in June. I haven't formally sent the trade request yet but we've been in relatively regular contact to both be confident the trade is still on. It might be nice to have the trade agreed on officially just so a fair level of commitment from both parties is there. If the trades auto-cancelled in 30 days without one of the parties initializing, our trade would not make it to the agreed upon exchange date.

So my vote would be nothing happens automatically unless both traders are completely off the grid. Maybe there should be something set up to purge BA accounts that haven't been accessed in X days or months? Not sure if any of that is close to helpful but this update is something I'd like to see because I don't like having those open trades lurking in my history.

 

Option 4:
No feedback left by either party: Deleted after X number of days
Feedback left by single trader: Neutral/Bad/Missing feedback indicator assigned to the trader with the missing feedback at Y number of days. This trader has ability to leave comment in response to the "auto feedback"

 

I don't like this option... I've got one or two trades "open" that have been completed, but my trade partner has not left me feedback (and I'm not sure why... as he received his box with everything intact)... doesn't seem fair to me that I would get "neutral/bad" feedback because my trade partner is too lazy to click a button and type a few words...

 

Sorry, I misspoke. I'll attempt to make it clearer.

I meant MIA/negative feedback is attached to the trader that neglected to leave feedback. This person may have already received positive feedback from the person they traded with. It would either overwrite that or be listed alongside. The trader that left feedback would receive an auto feedback as well. This could be an automatic POSITIVE. Or some sort of Neutral feedback that indicates his/her trading partner didn't leave any feedback in a timely manner.

 

Updated wording.

Option 4:
No feedback left by either party: Deleted after X number of days
Feedback left by single trader: "Okay" or "Bad" feedback is assigned to the trader that didn't leave feedback for the trader that did. It would overwrite a "Good" or "Okay" that was left, but never a "Bad". This trader has ability to leave comment in response to the "auto feedback". The trader that DID leave feedback gets an automatic "Good" along with a comment that his/her trader didn't leave feedback in a timely fashion.

 

I have a few old open trades myself that went down as advertised, but I was the only one to leave feedback. Would definitely be down for this option. Maybe give 30 days to leave feedback, or it defaults to "okay" for the ones who didn't, and "good" for the ones who did. And they could of course have the option to leave feedback whenever, and their's would change to good.

 

I would like to see something like option 4 described above. I have 4 open trades, all completed, feedback left for each of them and nothing left for me. "youngest" is almost 2 months old, oldest is almost 7 months old. Ridiculous when someone cannot be bothered to take a minute to at the very least click a button. I leave feedback the day I receive my box. That day. Not when my trader leaves feedback, that's BS old school eeBay games. You should leave feedback once you get your box period. You don't do so after X number of days something should be noted against you. Maybe not a negative, but something so that maybe you'll leave feedback on your next trade. Problem here is we have too many OG's with years of trading on BA under their belts who see no need to use the new rating system and the rest of us get punished for it.