Candy Sugar The Right Way (hint we've been doing it wrong)

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by ryane, Feb 29, 2012.

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If you've made candy syrup, did it have burnt sugar flavors?

  1. Yes

    35.3%
  2. No

    35.3%
  3. No, but it wasnt even close to the commercial stuff

    11.8%
  4. Ive had too many beers and I dont know what Im voting for

    23.5%
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  1. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    The other thing its, what specifically do you want to measure? If you're looking for small differences (trace compounds) in the flavor between your homemade candi syrup and commercial syrups, you'll need a different technique than say just looking at the overall sugar content of the syrups.
     
  2. JCTetreault

    JCTetreault Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2008 Massachusetts

    its been an awful long time since organic chemistry lab :slight_smile:

    the idea is to corroborate or refute the notion that D2 is truly made from 'just' refined, white cane sugar + time + temperature + multiple heating cooling cycles under a vacuum boiler (as they claim) vs. unrefined beet sugar (as many theorize). Knowing mineral content, sugars, total nitrogen, etc. would start to bridge the knowledge gap and provide the information needed.
     
  3. mCaudio

    mCaudio Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 Connecticut

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  4. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    I think we are overthinking this. I do not know if analyzing D2 components gets us any closer to the process of making it. That pound I made using base that I did not use is pretty tasty. Is it D2 I dunno.
    I can tell you that many homebrewers report using DAP or some other protein source and sugar and various other things to make tasty syrups. Is it what the originals do I really dont care.
    I am just going to let my tastebuds and messing around be my guide.
    In fact, I am going to go for a 2hr boil tonight for a porter this weekend. WhooHoo baby!
    Thanks for reminding me I wanted to try this method. Maybe I will throw some base in the first runnings and "carmelize" those too.
     
  5. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    True, but it could help to know whether or not the spec sheet is bogus. It should be interesting, and its probably a better use of my time than what I normally spend it doing........

    Barfdigs - I think Ive lined up an hplc ms that someone in our group uses for sugar analyses, however at this point I dont know if we are set up for fructose/sucrose, glucose levels will be able to be quantified easily though, and I suspect the others could be done with minimal effort as well

    Is there anything anybody else thinks could be useful????
     
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