Cans and future saleability

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Scoopster35, Dec 13, 2017.

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  1. Scoopster35

    Scoopster35 Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2017 England

    Hi, first post.

    I've today bought a can of Magic Rock Bearded Lady (Huddersfield, Eng, imperial stout), with a best before date of 2027!!!!???

    I've seen a lot of bottles with a lengthy Best Before date, mainly strong porters and stouts, but never before a can brewed in December 2017 with a 10-year lifespan. Well, no beer with a 10-year lifespan.

    A couple of questions. Do people think a can 'can' last for 10 years? Is there a potential future market for this? And is there a future market for aged beers?

    Any thoughts most welcome
     
  2. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    Beer is not about making money on futures.
     
  3. dlcarst

    dlcarst Zealot (733) Aug 21, 2015 Missouri
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    The $80 bottles of 1995 Samichlaus I saw the other day would disagree. Although they were sitting on a shelf, so it's not like demand was huge. But, I agree. If you want to make money investing, aging beer is probably not the best way. To make a whole lot, you'll have to have a massive cellar. And with the craft explosion, you can bet other people will have the same idea and we'll find that in 10 years there will be a whole lot more 2017 beers available than there are now 2007 beers available. Save some for away for your self and loved ones and have a truly enjoyable experience rather than make a few grand that you could have made investing in other ways.
     
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  4. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    @Scoopster35 i take it you are relatively new to the concept of cellaring beer (looks like you joined today).

    To answer the first question- yes the can “can” last for about 10 years, there is a BPA liner so I wouldn’t recommend regularly drinking aged cans, but it is done as a practice in this hobby.

    Bottles are more stable for ageing, some noteable examples from your neck of the woods are Thomas Hardy’s Ale, JW Lees, Courage Russian Imperial Stout, etc.

    Is there a market for it? That depends. Here in the Seattle area, if you had the money and were guillible enough about cellaring, you could pay $100 or more for the privilege of buying a beer intentionally aged for 10 years or more by the store.

    It’s kind of fun to drink a really old beer and contemplate the history you are drinking, other than that I cannot tell you why we do this.

    Cheers!
     
  5. Scoopster35

    Scoopster35 Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2017 England

    Cheers I wouldn't have envisaged making money out of it really, just the first beer I've seen with such a lengthy, self-acknowledged best before date. Be nice to lay down some of the fine stouts and porters we have in the north.
    As for John Willie Lees, I've heard there's a taste for it in the US, it's the beer I grew up with, typically Mancunian sour edge to it. Would never have considered aging anything of there's presume you're talking Moonraker?
     
  6. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    I suppose you could age the moonraker, not sure if anyone would buy it per se, but would be an interesting flavor experiment. The JW I’m referring to is the Harvest ales/barleywines.

    There has been some beer speculation in the past on eBay and other beer selling sites, there prices could get ridiculous quickly and you are never sure if anyone is even buying them or if people are just fruitlessly listing them at extortionist prices.

    5 years ago I would have said you could have had some fun and possibly made some money selling aged and desirable beers, now I’m not so sure as it feels like that whole scene has withered to me.
     
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