Cans - will you pay a premium?

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  1. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Grand Pooh-Bah (5,873) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    I'd rather not. But I will in places where bottles are not allowed, of course.
     
  2. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I thought cans were supposed to be cheaper? In addition to being easier to recycle. These were reasons for the shift from bottle to cans. (and weight too I guess). Was I mistaken?
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    FWIW, I am personally accepting of the concept that the beers would be priced equally between cans and bottles (although I would prefer to pay less for canned beers). The idea that canned beers are being priced higher is a travesty IMO.

    Cheers!
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Nope, this was already discussed by @Peter_Wolfe and others above.

    Cheers!
     
  5. Peter_Wolfe

    Peter_Wolfe Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2013 Oregon

    You're right on all counts, with the two added bonuses of 100% blockage of light and oxygen. Cans are better in every way with the possible exception of being slightly more awkward to actually drink from (which can be avoided by pouring into a glass).
     
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  6. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    To which any good beer snob (*raises hand) does. ...unless they are being lazy *raises hand again. :slight_smile:
     
  7. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    The price of "craft" popularity.
     
  8. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Like BA's #1 beer, Heady Topper? I think that one beer alone as big a factor in the can revolution as anything else is.

    To the OP though... if all things were equal between a can and bottle except price I would not pay a premium for the can. Yes, cans are a superior beer vessel, but the superiorness from when I buy to when I consume the beer isn't worth a premium cost to me. Besides, the packing and weight efficiencies should reduce the cost of canned beers relative to bottles, not increase...I'd buy the cheaper bottles with a little bit of spite to boot!
     
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  9. mwa423

    mwa423 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Ohio

    As a guy who does beer pricing for a living nationwide, you've landed on one of my pet peeves. There are some places where BMC products are more expensive in bottles than in cans, there's some relatively complicated reasoning behind it, but it's just the way it is. That being said, more often than not, when cans and bottles aren't priced the same, it's because one is an ad special or something and they only include one of the two packages or somebody just made a dumb mistake while putting it into the computer and nobody's bothered to correct it, in this case, I would guess the latter.
     
  10. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    It's probably not a beer that you would buy, but I recall getting a case of cans of Corona for at least $5 more than the bottled version back when I lived in PA.
     
  11. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    In addition to the reasons you stated, corks being a natural product have inconsistencies which can effect the seal case-by-case or completely fail. I heard on a winery tour once that synthetic corks are also slowly winning producers/consumers over for much of the same reason as screw tops. I'm honestly a little surprised the beer world holds to the cork & cage, instead of a synthetic cork [& cage, if necessary], because I don't think beer drinkers are quite as locked into tradition as wine drinkers. Or are there are other factors I'm not aware of?
     
  12. xpertskir

    xpertskir Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2010 West Virginia

    Sure if there is an activity I am engaged in that cans are required/more convenient(camping, boating, ect.)

    Sounds like some of you guys don't do anything fun with the unequivocal NO
     
  13. horsehockey

    horsehockey Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2014 Illinois

    This is strange. Aren't cans actually cheaper for the brewer to use as packaging? I always assumed cans would be easier and cheaper to use. Maybe they are trying to cash in on the new trend.
     
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  14. Harlan_Pepper

    Harlan_Pepper Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2014 Indiana

    Unfortunately, I probably would pay a premium for cans (although I've never had to). I hate bottles and would be happy if every beer were available in cans. If I'm torn on a decision between buying two beers that I'm in the mood for, if one of them is in cans then that usually breaks the tie for me.

    As much as I hate to say it, if Lagunitas Sucks were available in 12oz-cans at a $5 premium per 6-pack......I'd pay it.
     
  15. Harlan_Pepper

    Harlan_Pepper Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2014 Indiana

    Would you still choose bottles over cans if that particular beer bottle was green or clear?
     
  16. Billet

    Billet Pundit (794) Dec 17, 2013 Michigan

    I have found cans to be less expensive than bottles, typically. Especially, the 16 oz. "tallboy" 4 packs. I often choose cans over bottles, but I would not usually pay extra for cans.
     
  17. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    Maybe the bottles were on sale or something?
     
  18. MeadGuyfromMD

    MeadGuyfromMD Zealot (562) May 23, 2007 Maryland
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    On a sidebar, I wouldn't expect a brewery that recently started canning to offer that variant at a lower price, immediately. I think this conversation may have overlooked the initial start up costs, of adding a canning line. I would expect once the ROI of the canning line is realized, pricing would settle back in line with the bottles.

    To answer the Q - No, I would not pay a *significant* premium i.e. greater than 10%. I do acknowledge the improved recycleability of cans and space in my trash as a reason to consider it though.
     
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  19. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Blind tasting with those vs. cans - if there was no flaw introduced from those bottles then I would still go with bottles. All else equal I'm going with bottles.
     
  20. Beer_Loving_Brandon

    Beer_Loving_Brandon Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Mississippi

    Given the choice, I opt for bottles.

    If cans cost more, it matters nothing to me.

    This is an example of the of the market trying to direct itself.

    Sorry, that is not how it works, greedy brewers.
     
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