Cantillon Value Question

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by bhir, Jun 30, 2012.

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  1. bhir

    bhir Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2011 Pennsylvania

    There is a bar local to me that carries many 750ml bottles of Cantillon - Iris, Mamouche, St. Lamvinus and more. The prices for these range from $45-$60. I understand that these beers run a high cost due to the fundamentals of brewing and aging them and that I should expect them to be expensive - my question is: Are these prices hugely marked up or are they reasonable?

    FWIW, this bar is mostly pretty good about its bottles, but some beers here are outrageously priced.
     
  2. BirdsandHops

    BirdsandHops Grand Pooh-Bah (3,061) Apr 14, 2008 Oregon
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    Those are definitely jacked up since the shortage of Cantillon has everyone going nuts for it. I'd be tempted to at least get the St. Lamvinus for great trade bait, though. There are almost certainly people willing to pay $60 for a bottle of that.
     
  3. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    High price yes, compared to what it sells for in Belgium. But if you cannot fly over, and you got the cash and you want it, buy it. I would try to find it at a store cheaper first. of course no bar price is going to be a good value, that's just common sense.
     
  4. xnicknj

    xnicknj Initiate (0) May 25, 2009 Pennsylvania

    that's def a crazy markup on them, but with how hard it is to find ANY cantillon in the area, sometimes that's the only option.

    are they vintage bottles? my friends and i spent like $50+ on a bottle of LP framboise recently, but it was from 2005 and split between 4 people, so it wasnt too bad of a deal.
     
  5. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    That seems high, but Id buy it if its the only place that has it. With the shortage of just the Classic down here in NC, I usually buy it at a bar if they have it. like $17/375 mL
     
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  6. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    If that local bar is in Wayne, then their Cantilooooons are for on-premises only. They used to let you get them take out but not anymore, unless maybe you have some kind of special relationship with one of the bartenders or owners.

    Edit: and in the days of yore when you could find them at a store, the typical range in Philly was $12-$20 for 375mls and anywhere from $25-$60 for the 750mls, usually on the lower end.
     
  7. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Don't know if this helps to put things into perspective at all but when available in the UK (briefly maybe once or twice a year in my experience) the asking price for a 750ml bottle of Saint Lamvinus is usually about the equivalent of $15.50. So yeah, $40-$65 ain't cheap but if you really want to take a stab and you can't source them anywhere else it might be worth a shot. Might help if you could get a friend or two to share the cost and bottle as well.
     
  8. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    I wish I could find ANY of that here. I havent seen a Cantillon in a bar or store in my entire life. I really want St. Lamvinus and Mamouche.
     
  9. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    I wouldn't buy them, but a lot of people would.
     
  10. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    at a store, that's highway robbery. at a bar, that's par for the course.

    $30 may not have the sticker shock of $60, but compare that markup with the markup on every other bottle on the menu. it's probably pretty consistent (not to mention the huge cantillon demand among aficionados).
     
  11. vacax

    vacax Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2008 California

    For that price it is cheaper to order them and have them shipped from Belgium.
     
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  12. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    It's been mentioned above but typically bars are going to be considerably higher than bottle shops or liquor stores. That being said, from what I have seen, those prices are a bit high but not rediculous.
     
  13. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I doubt I'd pay that much, regardless of the type o cantillon.
     
  14. semibaked

    semibaked Pooh-Bah (1,897) Mar 27, 2007 Minnesota
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    Ya pretty much what he said.

    All are very good, but not $45 to $60 worth of good.
     
  15. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Grand Pooh-Bah (4,516) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin
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    Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay.
     
  16. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    damn! that's a helpful post!
     
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  17. onefalsemove711

    onefalsemove711 Crusader (498) Jul 20, 2011 California
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    That's a bit too pricey. When available (which is rare) around me, it's usually about $20 - $25 off the shelf. For a bar price, what you're listing is not surprising.
     
  18. LambicKing

    LambicKing Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Germany

    I'd probably shiv a man for Fou' Foune, but no way would I drop 60 yanks for a bottle of it, nevermind the ones mentioned.
     
  19. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Maven (1,338) Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Would you shank someone of my choosing for a bottle?
     
  20. LambicKing

    LambicKing Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Germany

    If the cut is right! I'm easy, just not cheap. :wink:
     
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