Cape May Brewing Company

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  1. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Zealot (556) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Good point. I guess I meant just that Head High is highly rated for its style and Coastal Evac is not, but I thought Coastal Evac, per style, was better. That's my fault.
     
  2. guinness77

    guinness77 Poo-Bah (2,069) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    I don’t know if you’ve had any Creature Comforts before (a friend of mine picked some up back in May) but Coastal Evacuation reminded me of Cosmik Debris. I was pretty happy to get CM in a store in Northern Jersey, but after I tasted it, let’s just say my happiness was more than confirmed. Delicious. I actually can’t wait until my 2 buddies try their cans.
     
  3. Mrstiffington

    Mrstiffington Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2018 New Jersey

    I’ll add that I like Cape May’s IPAs more than Icarus’s and they’re a lot easier to get.
     
  4. guinness77

    guinness77 Poo-Bah (2,069) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    It’s funng you say that. The Canal’s I went to had a bunch of Cape May and no Icarus. I asked and the guy said they had none. I’m definitely not upset with what I got though. CE and Whitecaps, a 4 of O’Dub and a 4 of Big Bad Baptist which I can’t get in NY.
     
  5. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,197) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Yeah, I’m a big fan of their regular IPA. As far as sheer drinkability and packaging is concerned (love the six packs), it’s right up there with Head High as my favorite flagship IPA in the state
     
  6. MacMalt

    MacMalt Poo-Bah (5,421) Jan 28, 2015 New Jersey
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    City to Shore is first rate!
     
  7. Michaelpro824

    Michaelpro824 Initiate (117) Nov 27, 2015 New York
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    Did anyone try the Coquito? Curious about it but not a cream ale fan
     
  8. J5ryall

    J5ryall Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2015 New Jersey

    1000% agree with Sixers of 12 oz cans.

    I wish more breweries would do that.
     
  9. TheGent

    TheGent Poo-Bah (2,535) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    When I read the above post a ‘lightbulb’ went off and I thought to myself: is Cape May brewing a Light beer?

    I went to the Cape May website to read:

    “And Brian pretty much classifies it the same way.

    “Yeah, this is probably the closest we’ll come to ever brewing a light lager,” he says. “It’s very crisp and refreshing, with the bone-dry finish really making it quaffable. Definitely a good drinking beer, doesn’t require any effort or thought, just clean and easy-drinking.”

    Pilsners, though fine beers, are well-known to be easy-drinking. So, when you add the Brut aspect into the mix — using amylase enzymes to take out every last bit of remaining sugar — this beer is one of the driest beers we’ve ever seen.

    “It’s pretty dry,” Brian says. “The other Brut-style beers we’ve done have had other elements to play off the dryness of the beer (the orange in Crushin It, the grape and wine-like characteristics of Fizz the Season, the fruity hop character in “traditional” Brut IPAs), but with New Year’s Resolution, there is very little there to distract the palette from the dryness, so the gentle bitterness really shines with the clean, lager finish really shining strong here.”

    https://www.capemaybrewery.com/blog/last-hurrah-and-new-years-resolution/

    Very interesting.

    I am aware that Night Lite is a popular selling beer for Night Shift Brewing.

    I wonder if in the future Cape May might add this beer (or a variant) as part of their year-round portfolio. This is not a beer that I would personally seek out but it could be a popular selling beer for the those beer drinkers that prefer Light/Lite beers.

    Cheers to Cape May for their continuing innovation!

    @brianhink @CapeMayBrewCo
     
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  11. schteve

    schteve Aspirant (240) Sep 10, 2003 New Jersey

    It's funny, when I first read this, my thoughts went to the Dry beer craze of the late 80s. I drank quite a few Michelob Dry bottles back then.

    But I'll definitely give this a whirl when I see it.
     
  12. TheGent

    TheGent Poo-Bah (2,535) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    I did not visit the website, so appreciate you providing the details @JackHorzempa

    When I read the Instagram post I thought to myself “Why not just brew a light lager?”

    The quote you pasted from the website begs the question: Why is this beer the closest they’ll ever come to brewing a light lager?
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Will you be visiting the Cape May tasting room to taste this beer?

    There are a number of aspects for a contemporary Light/Lite beer:
    • A significant portion of the grain bill being an adjunct (i.e., corn, rice)
    • A very low hop bitterness (below 10 IBUs)
    • Essentially zero hop aroma/flavor
    • Dry, crisp finish
    • Low calories
    • etc.
    As I read the blog post not all of the criteria I listed above is met. For example, I did not read any mention of adjuncts being part of the grain bill (only barley malt is mentioned: Pilsner Malt, Munich Malt).

    Also, rather than this beer having zero hop aroma/flavor there is mention of:

    “Saaz are my favorite Noble hop,” Brian says. “They’re super clean with subtle bitterness and that spicy undertone that really imparts a nice zing to the finish. I think they’re the perfect hop for brewing clean lagers — but are also perfectly home in a heavily hopped Saison! — and this beer really showcases their attributes."

    If you get a chance to drink this beer I would be interested in hearing your thoughts about it. This beer reads like a low ABV Pilsner beer that is super-dry to me.

    Cheers!

    P.S. Perhaps Brian (@brianhink) will join into this discussion if his Holiday plans permit some free time here.
     
  14. TheGent

    TheGent Poo-Bah (2,535) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    Unfortunately, I will not be visiting the tasting room. If the beer does not see distribution to my area I will not try get the chance to try it, as much as I’d like to.

    This beer is the first instance in which I’ve seen “Brut” used with “lager.” And the small number of “Brut” IPA that I have consumed left me wanting more. So I admit to being skeptical here, despite my overwhelmingly positive experiences with Cape May.

    The description in the Instagram post of “dry, crisp and drinkable” also made me think of many lagers I’ve had and left me wondering “Why ‘Brut’?” The descriptors felt redundant.
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Hopefully some will make it out to distribution?

    It is listed on the Cape May website as being a tasting room exclusive.

    Cheers!
     
  16. TheGent

    TheGent Poo-Bah (2,535) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    I hope so. I edited my post before you replied to add more of my thoughts
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, crisp and dry are qualities often ascribed to lagers.

    The below discussion may be more technical than would be desired but…

    The aspects of crisp/dry can be quantified via taking a specific gravity reading of the beer when it has completed the primary fermentation (and lagering in the case of a lager beer) process. I homebrew many types of lagers and for my homebrewing the specific gravity of the finished beer (referred to as the Final Gravity reading) is typically in the 1.010 – 1.012 range. This is a pretty low value but not super low.

    From the blog I linked above:

    “Let’s just put it this way: it has a lower density than water, which is rare for a beer,” Jimmy explains. “Imagine water, and then something with less body than that: that’s how dry this is.”

    Water has a specific gravity reading of 1.000 at 60 degrees F. What Jimmy is documenting is that Cape May New Resolution has a Final Gravity reading lower than 1.000 – maybe something like 0.997. This value is EXTREMELY low.

    I have no data on what the FG readings are for popular Light/Lite beers (e.g., Miller Lite, Bud Light, Coors Light) but I have read articles which intimate they are not below 1.000.

    Cheers!

    P.S. The only alcoholic beverages that I have ever produced which had FG values below 1.000 have been Hard Ciders. Those Hard Ciders were bone dry.
     
  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Poo-Bah (2,426) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    "Innovation" ? - but that's just Owades original process for making "Light" beer (Gablinger's > Meister Brau Lite > Miller Lite).
    Miller Lite recipe, circa 1980:
    Not sure going all-malt and upping the hop rate really qualifies as "innovation".
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I agree about your part of "not sure".

    Cheers!
     
  20. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Zealot (556) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    CBMC needs to come west of Lancaster County, PA. Hate being able to only get it while on vacation. Honestly, just give me the staples (CM IPA, Coastal Evac, Devil's Reach, Always Ready, etc.) and I'd be happy.
     
  21. TheGent

    TheGent Poo-Bah (2,535) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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  22. Greyvtrayn

    Greyvtrayn Disciple (306) Feb 17, 2017 New Jersey
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    Anxiously awaiting the return of Follow the Gull!
     
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  23. tzieser

    tzieser Meyvn (1,197) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Not a bad list by any stretch but I really wish they’d package Honey Porter again...and wtf happened to Cape May Lager?!:sob:
     
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  24. TheGent

    TheGent Poo-Bah (2,535) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    How I failed to notice that omission is beyond me! One of the best lagers I had this year. Damn.
     
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  25. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,383) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Me too. I think FTG is their best beer, period.

    Damn....no!! I loved the Lager, I drank the hell out of that this past summer, I sure hope they are doing it again I thought it sold really well.
     
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  26. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe in 2021? It sure isn't listed on the 2020 release schedule.

    Cheers!
     
  27. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (116) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    Their Lager was in my cooler for much of the summer, such a tasty on point beer. The blog post with the schedule says this, sadly:

    While many people love Cape May Lager, we’ve decided to discontinue this brand in 2020. Straightforward, unadorned, traditional lagers had a rough year in 2019, but our success with Tan Limes is telling us that there’s still a desire for those crisp, refreshing offerings. However, it doesn’t make sense for us to have two beers that fit that description on the market year-round, and we have high hopes for Tan Limes. So, in order to focus on what our consumers want, we’re saying goodbye to Cape May Lager to make more room in production (and on shelves) for Tan Limes
     
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  28. TheGent

    TheGent Poo-Bah (2,535) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    I love that blog post where they explain their thought process around each beer, changes, etc. Wish more breweries would do that.

    I hate the decision to stop brewing Cape May lager. And the reason, which I understand, saddens me even more.
     
  29. Kadonny

    Kadonny Meyvn (1,383) Sep 5, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    This,so much this.

    Anyway, I'm very disappointed in Tan Limes replacing it becasuse that beer can't hold the jock to the Lager.....another fruited beer.....great. RIP Cape May Lager, we had a good time together this past summer, may we meet again some time.
     
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  30. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Keith, another aspect to keep in mind is that during the summer Cape May brewing operations is 'balls to the walls'. They operate multiple shifts to try and keep up with demand. Producing two lagers during the summer months add 'extra' production issues due to the fact this beers take up more tank time due to the lagering process.

    When I took a tour of the brewery in September 2018 it appeared to me that the brewing facility is already maxed out so no existing room to expand operations in the existing facility.

    Perhaps if customer demands warrant multiple lagers during the summer months they could decide to conduct expanded contract brewing (e.g., FX Matt Brewing)?

    Cheers!
     
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  31. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (116) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    I thought Yards was helping out with some of the brewing/capacity issues, specifically for Lager.
     
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  32. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (5,431) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Ah, you have a good memory here:

    "The deal will specifically cover the brewing, kegging and canning of Cape May Lager for distribution."

    https://www.phillyvoice.com/yards-brewing-cape-may-lager-philadelphia-partnership/

    Perhaps the issue is that either Yards or Cape May have terminated this relationship for business reasons?

    Cheers!
     
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