Caramel/crystal malts in Linter equation

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  1. bs870621345

    bs870621345 Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2009 Iowa

    Hey all,

    Hoping to find some answers after reading/talking/pondering the question of do caramel/crystal (and so on) malts get calculated into the linter equation for diastatic power?

    They don't get converted anyway so I'm thinking they don't need to be factored into the equation.

    Cheers!
     
    #1 bs870621345, Aug 19, 2013
  2. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Zero diastatic power.
     
    #2 skivtjerry, Aug 19, 2013
  3. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    This is right.

    Are you talking about the mash? Take the weighted average of all of the grist to get the diastatic power of the mash. crystal malts, roast malts, adjuncts all have zero and bring the weighted average down.
     
    #3 hopfenunmaltz, Aug 19, 2013
  4. bs870621345

    bs870621345 Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2009 Iowa

    I know that the diastatic power of caramel malts is 0, however since they can be steeped, I wouldn't think that it matters in the calculation of Linter. We aren't converting the sugar in them anyway, so this is where the question stems from.

    I've been back and forth on this question for a while, so I'm trying to get a decent answer.

    Thanks for the answers so far!
     
    #4 bs870621345, Aug 19, 2013
  5. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Dilutes the enzymes, no?
     
    #5 hopfenunmaltz, Aug 19, 2013
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yep. Or another way of putting it....makes it harder for the limited enzymes to find the starches.
     
    #6 VikeMan, Aug 19, 2013
  7. bs870621345

    bs870621345 Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2009 Iowa


    Interesting...thanks for the responses! I should stop thinking and just brew it seems.
     
    #7 bs870621345, Aug 19, 2013
  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    There is a limit to how thin you can mash, around 3 qt/lb for all Pils malt. You need to know your malts and the DP those have. Doing Doppelbocks with all dark Munich is right on the edge. Adding 20% Pils gives some extra DP you are assured it converts.
     
    #8 hopfenunmaltz, Aug 19, 2013
  9. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    OP, I think you are considering the crystal malts to be 100% unfermentable which is not the case either.
     
    #9 NiceFly, Aug 19, 2013
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  10. bs870621345

    bs870621345 Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2009 Iowa

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