Cascade vs Chinook

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  1. Jake_Ramrod

    Jake_Ramrod Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Kentucky

    What say you? Which one is the most versatile? Best overall flavor profile? Etc.?

    I'm going to buy a Citra 2 lb bundle off ebay and need to figure out what hop to bundle the lb of Citra with.

    Or, I can do any of the list below:

    • Citra and Bravo hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Calypso hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Cascade hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Chinook hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Cluster hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Crystal hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and CTZ hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and El Dorado hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Galena hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Golding hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Hallertau hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Horizon hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Liberty hops 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Magnum hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Magnum hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Mt Hood hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Northern Brewer hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Nugget hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Perle hops 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Santiam hops 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Summit hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Tetnang hops 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Ultra hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Warrior hops, 16 oz (1#) each
    • Citra and Willamette hops, 16 oz (1#) each
     
    #1 Jake_Ramrod, Nov 17, 2015
  2. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Neither.

    Centennial.

    Cheers.
     
    #2 billandsuz, Nov 17, 2015
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  3. Jake_Ramrod

    Jake_Ramrod Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Kentucky

    Well, my first choice was Centennial or Columbus, but neither are available in this bundle. But, thanks for the recommendation.
     
    #3 Jake_Ramrod, Nov 17, 2015
  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Look again...
    I would go for the CTZ or Chinook, but that is simply because I am not a fan of either Centennial or Cascade :grimacing:. Looks like you are doing HopHeaven. Great guy, I get my hops from him every time.
     
    #4 jbakajust1, Nov 17, 2015
  5. Jake_Ramrod

    Jake_Ramrod Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Kentucky

    Columbus is actually sold out already. Apparently, I'm late to the party.

    Yeah, he runs a solid site. I have a $10 off ebay gift ceritifcate right now, so I'm essentially getting a free lb of hops by doing this. That's why I have to figure this out. I normally don't buy in bulk, so that is why I mentioned my purchase possibly being a versatile hop. I've heard people say that Chinook can be a little strong for some people, but I can't think of any Chinook beers that I found to be that way. I'm assuming that I could use the Chinook as a bittering hop, right? Does it work well in later additions, too? I've not used it that I can remember - at least not in large amounts.
     
    #5 Jake_Ramrod, Nov 17, 2015
  6. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Chinook, blends well or good alone.
     
    #6 GormBrewhouse, Nov 17, 2015
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  7. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I use Chinook a lot. It plays a supporting role in my IPA and lead in my Coffee Porter and Imperial Stout. It plays a bigger role in my Red IPA that I make sometimes. Love it late and as a dry hop, does have a little harsher bitterness. The APA American Stout we all collaborated on a few years ago has it late and was a decent beer. I got a 2nd place with it.
     
    #7 jbakajust1, Nov 17, 2015
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  8. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    What kind of beer do you want to brew?

    APA/IPA -> cascade
    Brown ale/porter/stout -> willamette
     
    #8 wspscott, Nov 17, 2015
  9. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    FTFY
     
    #9 jbakajust1, Nov 17, 2015
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  10. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Chinook, Cascade, or Willamette
     
    #10 ssam, Nov 17, 2015
  11. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Chinook and citra play nice together. Plus chinook plays into so many other beers besides an IPA that you'd be silly not to.
     
    #11 SFACRKnight, Nov 17, 2015
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  12. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    It depends on what you brew the most of. I do a lot of dark beers and I'd go with the Willamette. That said, I'd sneak Cascade into just about anything. It's a great hop.
     
    #12 inchrisin, Nov 18, 2015
  13. WertMaker

    WertMaker Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2009 Oregon

    Cascade and Chinook then make lots of Pales and IPA's.... :rolling_eyes:
     
    #13 WertMaker, Nov 18, 2015
  14. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    We will have to agree to disagree :slight_smile:

    I thought the chinook mostly worked in the AP Stout, but I don't think I would do it again.
     
    #14 wspscott, Nov 18, 2015
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Magnum would work too because ... well.... its magnum.
     
    #15 SFACRKnight, Nov 18, 2015
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  16. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Is there a real difference between hops labeled CTZ vs Columbus ? I've often wondered this
     
    #16 jlordi12, Nov 18, 2015
  17. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Not really. Columbus, Tomahawk, and Zeus are all the same hop, but each is grown on different farms and have slightly different additional characteristics. Each is resiny and dank as the primary attribute, but one has more citrus while the other has some blackberry. They are commonly sold either way, as Columbus or Zeus (never seen anyone sell straight Tomahawk) or as CTZ.
     
    #17 jbakajust1, Nov 18, 2015
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  18. lic217

    lic217 Pooh-Bah (2,090) Aug 10, 2010 Connecticut
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    Columbus might be the greatest hop ever...

    I would go chinook if no CTZ
     
    #18 lic217, Nov 19, 2015
  19. Jake_Ramrod

    Jake_Ramrod Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Kentucky

    I went with the lb of Citra, lb of Chinook, and a half lb of Simcoe just for the hell of it. Got my eye on a lb of Mosaic, too. Gonna be alot of APA's and IPA's coming down the line, I guess.
     
    #19 Jake_Ramrod, Nov 19, 2015
  20. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Solid combo. Chinook for me, all day, every day. Mosaic is a powerful hop. A pound should last you a very long time.
     
    #20 sjverla, Nov 19, 2015
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