Cask Homebrew Fest

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  1. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    A few of my brewing buddies and I have been conditioning and serving beers in casks for the last few years. We like the the unique product that cask produces and I enjoy merging new school US craft recipes w/ the traditional U.K. cask process -- others in my brew circle go strictly traditional and that makes for some great variety. Usually we do one at a time and consume in one or two sittings -- tonight we are doing 6 and inviting everyone we know. See below set up -- We've got a breakfast stout; Irish Stout, three IPAs spanning U.K./NE and West Coast styles and a dry hopped Kolsh. Anybody else doing homebrew cask and have experiences to share?
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Was that dry hopped prior to transferring to the cask or are the dry hops in the cask?

    Cheers!
     
  3. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I'm pretty sure it has pellet hops just dumped in the cask at racking -- probably 2oz or so. I've been doing the same but putting them in a muslin bag w/marbles to weigh down. In talking to a pro brewer friend who's been doing cask for years -- he says no need to constrict the hops in bags -- and it only take away from hop goodness diffusing more thoroughly on the beer. Just dump em.
     
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  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Our club does a comp every year, cask only, no force carbing. Some use real casks. Most use modified cornies. Always fun to judge that one. They are all set up a couple days prior, iced on the table, and then we do a full BJCP judging. Afterwards the rest of the club shows up to imbibe and do a people's choice.
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    British brewers would classically use hop plugs for dry hopping casks:

    “The term dry hopping originated centuries ago with British brewers and was used to refer to adding hops to the cask shortly before it was shipped off to the customer. In fact, 1/2-ounce hop plugs were specifically developed by British hop producers to be a convenient way to add whole hops to a keg or cask. Nowadays, dry hopping refers to any hop addition after the wort has been cooled. These additions can be done in the primary fermenter, in the secondary or by adding hops directly to a keg. I have even heard of one homebrewer attempting to add one or two hop petals to each bottle of a bottle-conditioned batch! (It didn’t work though.)”

    https://byo.com/mead/item/569-dry-hopping-techniques

    I am personally unaware of where to purchase hop plugs. I think they are only made in Britain?

    Maybe some homebrewers make their own hop plugs from whole hops?

    Cheers!

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  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    So, no one drives home party. :slight_smile:
    Very cool!
     
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  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Are they adding priming sugar and just carbing on the low side then?
     
  8. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Yup. If they use CO2 in any way other than to seal the keg they are disqualified. After everything is ready to go the keg is laid on it's side with the bottom slightly elevated, a picnic tap is attached to the gas post for pouring, and another is on the liquid dip tube for allowing in ambient air to clear any vacuum that may occur.
     
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    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Is there a one way valve on the liquid line then?
     
  10. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Usually just a picnic tap. When there is a vacuum in the keg you open the picnic tap on the top post to let air in through the liquid dip tube.
     
  11. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Nice. Thanks for the help, I would like to do a cask type ale at home, and this sounds pretty doable for a keg newb. Probably looking at doing the APESB with this set up and maybe some dry hops.
     
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  12. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I would recommend putting an in line air filter in the line to the liquid tube. If you aren't able to drink it all in a day or two, it should help keep it from going sour. It will still oxidize, but the filter should keep out bacteria and wild yeast.

    I have wanted to do something like this before, but won't kill a keg in 2 days. I've thought of just hitting with 8psi when I get a vacuum just to keep a blanket of CO2 on it.
     
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  13. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Jack, long before you started brewing :slight_smile:, hop plugs were available here at LHBSs and some must have been produced domestically because I used to use some NW hop variety ones. Cheers
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Barry, when I started homebrewing in the 90's I was cognizant of hop plugs but frankly I didn't pay much attention to them.

    Do you know where homebrewers can purchase hop plugs today and what varieties are available today?

    Cheers!
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Justin,

    Have you considered implementing a cask breather?

    http://www.micromatic.com/cask-breathers/cask-breather-cask-b

    Cheers!
     
  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    No, but I be look'in :slight_smile:
     
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  17. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Wow, very impressed. I must have missed my invitation in the mail :wink:
    I am a major cask fan (go to NERAX every year) but haven't tried it in my homebrewing, mostly because of the limitations - you have to kill the cask in a couple days max, and short of a party or something, I just can't do that with most of my beers. I do have a couple recipes that I think would translate pretty well to cask, though.
     
  18. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    a cask breather --- as mentioned above -- can extend the life of a cask for a few weeks -- but I agree w/your comments on limitations for the home brewer. send me a message w/your info and we'll get you on the invite list for the next event. I will be going to NERAX in a few weeks -a great event every year. One of the organizers - Randy Baril - also hosts a May Day cask fest featuring half a dozen or so home-brews - usually in the Cambridge area. It's a small event but open to the public and has always featured some really good brews and a subset NERAX kinda crowd. Not sure if he's doing it this year - will find out and report back here. Cheers!
     
  19. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The ones I used years back were Morris Hambury, they went bankrupt. A US start up filled the void for homebrewers, they went under. I haven't done a search to see if any are available in the U.K.

    A guy in our club tried to make some by packing hops into a PVC pipe. He couldn't get it out due to friction and sticky resins. He split the pipe using a table saw to get the hops out and then cut to size.

    I think one could use a short piece of pipe and pack hops in a half ounce at a time, and then punch the plugs out.
     
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  20. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    There's a reason they aren't made anymore -- the concept serves no real purpose aside from being a convenient shape to fit through the shive hole. For the homebrewer it's just as easy to dump whole or pellet hops through the hole for dry hopping in the cask-- or jamming a Muslim bag w/hops in it into the cask. Am I missing something?
     
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