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CBS or KH

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by mateuszekxxpl, Jan 31, 2013.

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CBS vs KH

Poll closed Feb 2, 2013.
  1. CBS

    18.1%
  2. KH

    81.9%
  1. mateuszekxxpl

    mateuszekxxpl Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I was wondering people's opinion on what beer they would rather have in their cellar-- a KH or CBS. Currently I have a CBS and was offered a KH 1:1 trade. From what I have heard, the maple is pretty much all gone in the CBS while the Bourbon is holding strong in the KH. Just curious about this and hopefully I can get my mind cleared. Thanks guys and cheers!
     
  2. OakedCanuck

    OakedCanuck Jun 23, 2009 Washington

    I've had both recently and KH has held up way better. Just my opinion.
     
  3. standardcherry

    standardcherry Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    ^ I second OakedCanuck's statement. I had both about a week apart in December and KH has held up so much better.
     
  4. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Mar 19, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    My bottles of CBS and KH have been in the fridge for the past few 3-4 months, neither is getting any better. You really don't want to sit on these.
     
  5. kscaldef

    kscaldef Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
    Beer Trader

    <--- will accept any bottles of either beer that people are afraid are going downhill.
     
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  6. UNCCTDawg

    UNCCTDawg Nov 30, 2011 North Carolina
    Beer Trader

    I think the cellaring conditions that these bottles were kept in will play a huge factor in this (I know, duh). But, I had a CBS not too long ago and thought it was still really good and still comparable to how it tasted a year ago. As for KH, I'm bringing a bottle to the Foothills Sexual Chocolate release on Saturday, so I'll report back on its condition then :)
     
  7. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    King Henry still tastes amazing. I didn't notice any change from about 8 months ago. Maybe it has changed from what it was fresh but there ain't nothing wrong with KH. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
     
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  8. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    That may be true...but thinner than thick...it is still pretty thick. Less barrel...sure. still plenty there, though. I never got to taste it fresh, its still one of the best beers around. I pray for a time machine to go back and taste KH fresh before I die.
     
  9. mattsander

    mattsander Feb 3, 2010 Alberta (Canada)
    Beer Trader

    "Even if you do get a KH, it will never taste as good as it did for me."

    Always remember that.
     
  10. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I'm a pretty creative guy but I can't even imagine KH being more than 15% better than it is now.
     
  11. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Also...2011 bourbon county is amazing right now too. I didn't expect to like it better than 12 which is also great. Seems goose makes some brews that stand the test of time pretty darn well. 2011 KBS was a giant disappointment last week.makes me worry about the CBS coming my way.
     
  12. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Mar 19, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I hear you on the BCBS '11. I think it's the best they've done since '08. Drinking one right now.

    As far as KBS goes, drink half of your bottles fresh, then the other half at 8-12 months. Outside of a year I've found that KBS falls apart (thin body with very little barrel character).

    Also had one of my last bottles of KH this week. Sorry folks, but it's really a shadow of what it was fresh and even what it was several months ago.....which led me to take the out of the cellar and into the fridge. Still a good beer, just nothing all that much better than the other BBBW's out there.
     
  13. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    At least I don't have the disappointment of comparing KH now to KH fresh. I just get to enjoy it that much more than you can.
     
  14. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I agree about the KBS, the barrel fades fast. even at 8 months I was disappointed with it. I plan to treat KBS like IPAs.

    Sorry, even a very small man (like King Henry) can cast a very large shadow. In the process of a mutli session barleywine tasting and KH drinks like a giant among men. I will say that comparing KH to most BBBWs is tough because it carrys so much of that BCBS flavor and is so distinct. BB4D is the only thing I've tried that was comparable.
     
  15. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    Fresh - CBS. Aged - KH.
     
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  16. brewbetter

    brewbetter Jun 2, 2012 Nauru

    I have some maple syrup for your CBS if you're interested.
     
  17. Brew33

    Brew33 Oct 24, 2007 Ohio
    Beer Trader

    Curious as to what you mean when you say this. Do you mean the body has thinned out? If so, how does that happen? I've never experienced this.
     
  18. Auror

    Auror Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    Just had a large mostly-barreled barleywine tasting (too large, probably, but the King Henry was early), and IMO it still blew everything out of the water. I had a bottle fresh, and I'll admit this one was a bit different from my memory, but it was sublime. Caramel and vanilla swirled deliciously.
     
  19. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    Wait... there are people who DRANK their CBS and/or KH?
     
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  20. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Did the same a few weeks ago and I totally agree (edit: if you amend the "blew everything out of the water...to almost everything).

    [​IMG]

    Including this part of the tasting blind:

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    EDIT: Parts 2 and 3 of this tasting are upcoming because there was so many BWs we didn't get to in the first session.
     
  21. gpawned

    gpawned Jun 5, 2012 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I was going to say that the other top 5 were fantastic and my #2 was BB4D (unfortunately we didn't have a BBBW) and the "blew it out of the water part is only true for most of what we tried. Not sure if Auror felt the same way.
     
  22. Auror

    Auror Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
    Beer Trader

    No, but it had Leon, BA Church on a Hill, '09 Perfect Storm, Seared Palate, Sucaba, BA Naked Evil, among many other things.
     
  23. standardcherry

    standardcherry Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    Sorry for the off-topic but what did you think of BA Hi-Fi vs KH vs Sucaba? KH and Sucaba are two of my favorites and I've got a bottle of B1 BA Hi-Fi sitting there.
     
  24. kscaldef

    kscaldef Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
    Beer Trader

    But, surely

     
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  25. eyeenjoybeer

    eyeenjoybeer Feb 18, 2011 Seychelles

    His comment is not about BA HiFi being better because of age. He is commenting that BA HiFi b1 was better right out of the gate. Fresh batch 1 > fresh batch 2 and the quality difference is such that batch 1 is still better.

    edit: or so I think that is his point.
     
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  26. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Nov 23, 2010 Illinois

    Whiff.
     
  27. OakedCanuck

    OakedCanuck Jun 23, 2009 Washington

    I drank a batch 1 last week and it was still amazing, FWIW.
     
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  28. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    Not surprised you are the leading poster of this thread...
     
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  29. mattsander

    mattsander Feb 3, 2010 Alberta (Canada)
    Beer Trader

    [​IMG]

    Were some King Henry's sealed in wax?
     
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