Cellar Reviews (2019)

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  1. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2017 DFH Siracusa Nera

    Finishing off the last of the 10/11/17 four pack. Carbonation has not fallen off one iota. Unfortunately nothing has really changed positively while nothing has deteriorated either. Maybe my palate's too unrefined because I'm not detecting the variety of flavors that DFH describes in their blurb. It's certainly still good enough and didn't develop any off elements in the aging process so I'm not at all disappointed by the results other than it didn't improve. Isn't that part and parcel of aging experiments?
     
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  2. AirBob

    AirBob Pooh-Bah (1,742) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Trillium - Lineage Rye (Nov 2017 packaging date)

    3 fingers of light fizzy white head. Quickly disputes to 1/2 finger of the same. Body is transparent straw colored with golden hues. Minimal visible carbonation.

    Balanced nose: vanilla, oak, ripe apple, strawberry, vinegar. Some floral characteristics underlying. Funk become more predominate as the glass warms.

    Tart, but somewhat balanced. Started with wood and vanilla which quickly shifts to tart apple. Barrel characteristics underlying. Finish brings some vinegar, oak, a touch of sweet berry. A bit earthy as well - I suspect from the rye. Tart and sweet. Minimal funk.

    Prickly carbonation. Finish is not dry - a bit stickier than expected. Slight chaulky texture mid-month.

    Great looking wild ale. The nose is outstanding and the flavor profile is more balanced as I drink through the bottle. I've found Trilliums wild/sour program to be disappointing - often too tart with minimal complexity at a premium cost. That said, I really enjoy this beer with a year or two.

    I won't be supporting Trillium any time soon due to the recent wage issues, but won't stop me from enjoying this bottle!
     
  3. bayareahustla

    bayareahustla Zealot (656) Jul 13, 2012 California
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    Smooooookey deliciousness.
    Sweetness coming from what I would think the cherry bark as it holds a hint of cough syrup stickiness and medicinal off flavor.
     
  4. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    Bell's Third Coast Old Ale Vertical

    9/13/2018

    Poured into a DFH tulip. Nice sized head with decent retention over slightly dark brown body with good retention. Smell was nicely boozily sweet with a distinct hoppy piney bitterness, not as much as Bigfoot but still obviously present. Taste was nicely sweet but with a bitter aftertaste. The aftertaste faded as it warmed (stored at 50 degrees) but never completely disappeared, which was expected (thinking that an American Barleywine is going to be like a British one just ain't happening). It was very enjoyable as it warmed up.

    10/11/2017

    Carbonation was slightly reduced while still being far from flat. Smell and taste had a reduced hop presence while still obviously being there. This is already starting to age nicely. Not sure where the optimum spot is but I'm pretty sure it's not there yet. Looking forward to revisiting this in a year or so.
     
  5. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    12/30/2016 Founders Curmudgeon

    Poured into a DFH tulip. Carbonation is still present with no obvious diminution. Not sure if the color has darkened more from 11/13/18 but it is decidedly darker than the starting point. Molasses and oak seem to be more blended. Aging hasn't hurt this at all but I'm not sure that it's improved at the same level as, say, North Coast Old Stock Ale. Still I only have one left and I'll wait until at least the three year point if not longer.
     
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  6. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    8/29/2018 Founders Curmudgeon's Better Half

    First time trying again after 10/14/2018. I'm not sure if six months have balanced the sweetness which I originally found overpowering, but after a 12/30/2016 Curmudgeon, the sweetness tastes refreshing. Further aging might balance the sweetness more but the current level isn't problematic. Maybe it's all a matter of perspective but I've upgraded the rating from 3.91 to 4.16.
     
  7. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2017 Founders KBS

    This is the second half of a vertical starting with a 2019 which was, quite frankly, a disappointment. It tasted like a slightly better Breakfast Stout with next to no barrel presence. This had slightly less carbonation but was far from flat. The coffee smell and taste was reduced but still present but, wow, the barrel presence was back and left no doubt that I'm drinking something barrel aged in bourbon barrels. This was the opposite of what I expected, which is why we do these tests.
     
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  8. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2014 Parabola. Nice light brown head on the pour. Nose is amazing. Intense chocolate and bourbon aromas. Some black licorice, vanilla, and cherries. Taste is intense. Actually a bit bitter up front. Definitely some charred wood in there. The back end is a bit sweeter, with dark chocolate and lactose. Licorice, toffee, oak, and smoke. I definitely prefer fresh Parabola to where this is right now - just a bit too bitter for me. It's like I'm chewing on a piece of burnt wood, with some chocolate mixed in. The aftertaste is a touch sweet, but I am also picking up a hint of pipe tobacco as well. Mouthfeel is pretty thick and creamy.

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  9. BigIslandfarmer

    BigIslandfarmer Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2016 Minnesota

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    2017 Central Waters Belgian Style Quad
    I wouldn't say it has improved but it hasn't gotten worse. It is just different. Aged as you would expect, less bourbon barrel & bitterness, more dark fruit, caramel sweetness, slight oxidation that complements rather than detracts. It was, & still is, an excellent sipper.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. BalancingBrooms

    BalancingBrooms Pooh-Bah (2,894) Aug 22, 2013 California
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    I found that (I like) Curmudgeon, like KBS is best fresh. Founders knows how to barrel age beers, and nails the perfect bright balance fresh IMO. In my experiments that perfect balance is lost at a year. Keep us updated though how it holds up!
     
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  11. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2014 Uncle Jacob's. Cellared properly since new. A good amount of head on this one. Aroma is intense toffee, dark chocolate, blackberries, port, walnuts, raisins, and oak. Taste is amazing, as it is fresh. Getting some nice charred wood, dark chocolate, and nuttiness. Not as much dark fruit on the taste. Picking up a good amount of barrel, and of course the alcohol intensity. Some spice, along with some candy notes are present. There is a somewhat odd aftertaste that I don't remember from the fresh versions. It's kind of a bitter nutty flavor. Otherwise, this is stellar. I might go less than 5 years next time though.

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  12. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2008 J.W. Lees Harvest Ale

    Had a friend over and decided to split one of these with him (am I a great guy or what?). Carbonation was non existent and smell was of rich boozy sweetness. The first sip started with a concentrated sugar blast with the tobacco and leather taking over quickly with no obvious booze taste. I'd had a 2007 previously and other than somewhat less sediment my palate isn't sensitive or refined enough to detect a difference. Just a wonderful experience.
     
  13. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    Deschutes The Dissident 2016 Reserve

    4.39/5 rDev +4.5%
    look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

    10/17/2016 bottle stored @ 50 degrees. Poured into a DFH tulip, the first pour had a clear reddish amber color but the second, after being put in a colder fridge was much cloudier with sediment. Both had reasonably sized heads which faded quickly. Smell was very cherry forward with a wild yeast funk. Taste was of cherries on top of a pleasantly sour base which lingered nicely. Maybe this is the perfect age for this because I can't imagine improving on this but this is why we keep pushing the limits.
     
  14. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2013 Terrible from Unibroue. Best before January 18, 2018. Not too much head, unlike most Unibroue dark ales. Nose is dominated by Belgian yeast and dark fruits. Cherry, blackberry, and some apple. Some bread and a bit of spice. Taste is really smooth. Toffee, dark fruit, bark, apple, and a touch of candy. This has done well, but I think it was a bit better fresh.

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  15. strohme2

    strohme2 Pooh-Bah (2,001) Nov 3, 2007 Michigan
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    Wasn’t planning to but on a whim opened this. 2017 Bells Black Note, bottled 10/5/2017 batch # 19530.
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    Pours a dark brown with about a finger’s worth of khaki foam head. Decadent nose of rich roast, dark chocolate, burnt coffee and hints of vanilla. Starts out much more bitter than expected. Licorice and earthiness blends into bakers chocolate, coffee grounds, burnt toast, heavy roast, bourbon and char. No booziness, no heat.
    Smooth body.
    I have a 2016 in the fridge, curious on what this one is like.
     
  16. liquorpig

    liquorpig Pooh-Bah (1,964) Sep 6, 2008 Massachusetts
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    2013 Stone Old Guardian Oak Smoked
    Pours with a little head that dissipates quickly. Reddish brown to garnet color. Aroma of candied sugar followed by a hint of smokiness. Little carbonation. Smooth mouthfeel. Dry fruit, figs, some bitterness with a very subtle smokiness. Finishes with a bitterness. I love smoke beers that are not overpowering with smoke. This fits the bill. The alcohol is well hidden too for an 11.4% abv.
     
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  17. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2017 Scaldis Nöel

    8/14/2017 bottle. I'm not sure how much this has improved in the last six months but it tastes very good tonight. Everything is balanced with rich malty Belgian strong ale tastes and smells. I'll have the last one of this four pack over the holiday season.
     
  18. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2012 Dissident from Deschutes. Oh my - what a treat! A nice hiss upon cracking the cap. A gorgeous dark orange with a nice bit of light head. The nose is full of cherries, oak, and funk. Some raisins and sherry come through as well. A touch of nutmeg and cinnamon as well. The taste is insanely complex. So many things flash across my brain as I taste it! Leather, wood, sour cherries, citrus peel, grain, burnt toffee. A good mixture of sweet and bitter, with a side of funk. This is such an interesting beer - definitely something I could only have once in a while. Overall, very enjoyable.

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  19. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2015 Sucaba. Nose is toffee, bourbon, raspberries, vanilla. Taste is amazing - better than the nose IMO. Big caramel notes, mixed with some bourbon, wood, vanilla, dark fruit, and raisins. Fantastic BA barleywine that has aged well. Wouldn't go much further than this though.

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  20. liquorpig

    liquorpig Pooh-Bah (1,964) Sep 6, 2008 Massachusetts
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    2012 Anchor Steam Old Foghorn
    Pours a nice burnt orange color with a soft pillowy head. Nicely carbonated. Aroma consists of dried fruit and candied sugar with some toffee. Smooth flavor consisting of toffee, caramel, dried fruit with some sweetness. Holding up pretty well. I'm glad I have a few more that I'll continue to age.

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