Cellar Reviews (2020)

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  1. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I've often wondered how the barrel used effects cellar-worthiness. Unfortunately I don't see many of the same beer available in multiple different barrels around me. Maybe this year I'll see if I can track down a couple different barrel versions of parabola to set up a bit of an experiment.
    Does anyone else have any insight into how the previous barrel contents effect the lifespan of the beer? if at all
     
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  2. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    2011 Troegs Flying Mouflan

    Pours a deep mahogany reddih brown color, ery thin head that fades. Aroma is a ton of dark caraeml, mollasses and raisin. Similar flavor, moderately sweet, long finish. Medium to full bodied, lower carbonation.

    This was my last bottle from a case I bought the week of bottling. This one went from an amazingly hoppy delight when fresh, to an awkward mix of flavors, to then a rich malty treat. Its a bit past that second prime now, but still sad to dr I nk the last bottle since Troegs discontinued the regular version.

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  3. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (5,247) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
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    3 Sheeps Uber Joe Bottled 4/5/19. Purchased from the brewery last August, placed in basement cellar until a few weeks ago, refrigerated since. 10.0% ABV

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    Thought I had a formal rating for this pour before, but didn't. Don't have a reference point to compare this beer 15 months in, but want to report back the coffee held up excellent. This is one of my favorite coffee / maple beers ever.

    Appearance: Pitch black pour, creamy tan head leaves faint small bubbles in its wake. 4.5

    Aroma: Very strong roast coffee aroma, good morning!!! Rich roast malt and dark chocolate aroma blends very well, a most excellent aroma! 4.75

    Taste:
    Mirrors aroma, strong roast coffee leads, very sweet backing maple syrup, chocolate and light vanilla back. Sweet but not overwhelming, abv well masked. An excellent imperial stout. 4.75

    Mouthfeel:
    Light fizzy carbonation present throughout, medium creamy body, easy drinking stout. 4.0

    Overall:
    Outstanding pour, will pick these up in the future. Another great 3 Sheeps pour! 4.5

    Do coffee aged beers typically hold up well? No
    Did this coffee aged beer hold up well? Oh, hell yes.
    Would I buy and drink fresh and or cellar in the future? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!!!!

    Cheers!
     
  4. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2013 Black Butte XXV from Deschutes. I loved this one fresh, so I'm excited to see how 7 years has impacted this one. A good amount of head on the pour. Nose is dominated by molasses, raisins, dates, black licorice, and dark chocolate. Almost getting a touch of peach on the nose as well. The taste is a huge smack in the face. Enormous flavor on this, and quite complex. big notes of molasses, black currant, blackberries, tobacco, coffee, figs, baking chocolate, bread, and a touch of nuts. There is some sweetness in there, especially associated with the black currant, but there is a bitterness on the aftertaste. A mixture of citrus peel and dark chocolate. Overall, this is a wonderful beer that has evolved quite a bit with age. I wish I had more.

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  5. brian4beer

    brian4beer Pundit (826) Jan 27, 2013 Indiana
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    2012 Robert the Bruce aged in TR barrels w berries.

    pours min carb w thin lace
    All berries/jam on the nose
    Taste is bitter/acidic with no hint of bourbon
    Thin watery mouthfeel
    Finish leaves a tart aftertaste

    overall this is not good. I am not a wee heavy drinker anyway but this is a drain poor for me
     
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  6. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2017 Fundamental Observation. Kept at cellar temp since new. The nose is spectacular. Marshmallow, vanilla, bourbon, milk, chocolate-dipped strawberries, toffee, and some more milk chocolate. Wow. This is definitely a 5/5 on the nose. The taste nicely follows the nose, but with a slight bitterness on the back end. Lots of chocolate, lactose, vanilla, marshmallow, roasted malts, dark fruit, brown sugar, and a touch of spice (maybe nutmeg). The mouthfeel is insane. Super thick and creamy. Overall, this is amazing fresh and amazing after 3 years.

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  7. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    2018 Trappistes Rochefort 8. Dated best by 2023

    Pours a medium brown in color with thick head of fine bubbles. Great head retention as I drink. Aroma of bready malt, herbal Belgian yeast, apricot, and honey. Taste has similar flavora and is mildly sweet. Not as bold or dry as the 10 as the same age. Mouthfeel is very smooth and creamy even though it's fairly thin bodied.
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  8. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2016 Avery Anniversary Ale Twenty Three

    4.07/5 rDev +4.1%
    look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

    2016 bottle bought a week ago without having checked the date. When I got home I thought WTF let's see what happens.

    Poured into a DFH tulip, body was a dark mahogany with a tan head that showed no sign of having aged badly. Smell was very sour at the cellar temperature, which worried me but as it warmed up dark fruit and funk began to make their presence felt. Taste reflected the smell but was also very refreshing. At first I thought it tasted a bit "old" as in past its prime, and maybe it is because I never had it fresh; but as it warmed up and the other flavors began blending in it tasted very zesty. By the time I got to the end I was sorry I didn't have more. So this was a successful inadvertent experiment in aging.
     
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  9. TheGent

    TheGent Grand Pooh-Bah (4,235) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    Hey, Cellar Dwellers!

    Going on a bit over a month since I’ve posted here. I’ve enjoyed catching up on all the reviews over the past couple days!

    A “young” cellar pull for tonight’s review...

    Goose Island - Bourbon County Brand Mon Cheri Stout (2019 Release)

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    Look: The beer pours very dark brown out of the bottle. Burnt sienna. In the glass it’s black and opaque. A pinky finger of light brown head disappears, but for a thin ring around the edge of the glass. No visible carbonation and no lacing as I drink the beer.

    Smell: The nose on this beer is great. A lot of bourbon barrel vanilla. I get a ton of chocolate fudge. Big on granola. The sweet grainy notes, the sweet raisin and the chocolate. Definitely has a granola bar thing going on. Strong candied cherry. As the beer warms this aroma pops. If you’ve had Luxardo cherries, that’s what I’m talking about. It smells like 14.1% without being “hot” or off-putting.

    Taste: The flavor is so smooth and well integrated. Driven by the oats, granola, and brown sugar, it doesn’t scream cherry to me. Certainly not tart cherry. Some candied cherry sweetness. A lot of milk chocolate. Some dark fruit. It’s got some of that cherry cordial thing going on. A little sweet and syrupy.

    Feel: Nice feel. Not too thin, but not thick at all. Sweet up front and on the finish. Some pleasant warmth in the pipes. Sticky sweetness on my lips.

    Overall: This beer is great. I loved it fresh, as reviewed here. And I still do. Nothing off about it. If anything I’m enjoying it more now than my prior rating suggests. Drink em of you liked em fresh. Or let it sit a bit longer if you’re not in a rush.
     
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  10. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2017 Founders KBS

    Going through my cellar I found this uncataloged straggler which surely came from the person who took the picture of my avatar before relocating to San Diego. Like the previous discovery from this brewing period, this has not suffered from aging. I still have two 2019 KBSs which frankly I found the barrel component to be AWOL and thought it was indistinguishable from Breakfast Stout; not that it's a bad comparison but something has to justify the price point, right? Anyway this is a positive experience no matter how off the books it might be.
     
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  11. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Yesterday’s beer was a 2015 Marshal Zhukov.....gravy for bratwurst.

    Ok ok, I do not usually use elite vintage beers for cooking stock, but there’s a story here. When I moved a few years ago my father in law who was helping me move put some boxes in my garage freezer to consolidate while moving. Well, I was not aware of this and once the move was complete I plugged the garage freezer in. A couple of days later I opened the freezer to find it contained a case of vintage beer, mostly Marshal Zhukovs I had as part of a vertical. This made me somewhat sick to my stomach although fortunately I had two concurrent verticals going back to 2010, and the other vertical was completely unscathed, so all wasn’t good but at least all wasn’t lost cause that other vert was saved.

    Anyways, the beers in the freezer box did, of course, not fare so well. They all froze to varying degrees, a couple even had their tops pop off and had to be pitched.

    So, I just assumed all the beers in the case were trashed, but I kept them around just to see, figured I may be able to use them for some purpose like cooking. I haven’t touched them since but fast forward to last night, and I decided to do a stout gravy brat recipe; figured one of these previously frozen Zhukovs would do the trick. So I cracked the 2015 bottle, poured about 10-12oz into the slow cooker and then the last 10-12 into a glass, again assuming this would be ruined from the freeze.

    Well, much to my surprise it was most certainly not. Pour yielded a big dense and dark head, showing no signs of damage from the freeze. Aroma was leather, tobacco and some subtle roast. Taste was amazing with big caramel, huge chocolate, roasted malt and some herbaceous raw oak notes. There were zero signs that this beer was damaged goods at all. Goddamn. Kinda makes me wish I didn’t pour half of it into a crockpot......

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  12. ManBearPat

    ManBearPat Pooh-Bah (1,813) Dec 2, 2014 Colorado
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    Excuse me- can we get that stout gravy review, y’all?!????
     
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  13. brian4beer

    brian4beer Pundit (826) Jan 27, 2013 Indiana
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    CD6
    Pours creamy yellow with nice carb and slight lace
    Nose is musty and stale
    Thin mouthfeel
    Nothing much going on taste wise. Maybe some faint grape must with green apples
    Finish is acidic.

    Tastes like an old past its prime HF saison. A shell of its former self.
     
  14. BeardedWalrus

    BeardedWalrus Pooh-Bah (1,666) Jun 5, 2018 North Carolina
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    Wow man, i hope that gravy was worth it.
     
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  15. JHDStein

    JHDStein Zealot (579) Aug 16, 2013 Germany

    Found an 8-year old St. Bernardus Prior 8 in my cellar. Totally forgot about it, tucked away in the back of my beer shelf. Never realized how old it actually was. Well, I should have left it in the back. 8 years is definitely too much for a Prior 8. Tasted quite off, bit of vinegar sharpness and alot of the malt simply wasn't there. Harsh and unenjoyable. Live and learn... Washed it down with a 2-year old Prior 8. Much better.
     
  16. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    So what you are saying is you made a Zhukov Imperial Eis-Stout successfully??
    Congrats on that win!
     
  17. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Karl Strauss 21st Anniversary Belgian Strong Ale Aged with Old Vine Zinfandel Grapes (2010)

    3.99/5 rDev +5%
    look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

    A: Pours an extremely murky mahogany brown in color with light to moderate amounts of fine active visible carbonation rising slowly along the edges of the glass and moderate ruby red + chestnut brown + honey + dark golden yellow colored highlights. The beer has a half finger tall soapy sudsy light beige head that quickly reduces to a small to medium sized patch of very thin film covering a little more than 20% of the surface of the beer and a very thin ring at the edges of the glass. Minimal amounts of lacing are observed.

    S: Moderate to strong aromas of bready + graham cracker + caramel + dark malts with moderate amounts of dark fruit (red grape + fig) + caramel sweetness. Moderate aromas of oak woodiness and Belgian yeast with a hint of spiciness. Moderate aromas of Zinfandel grapes and a hint of herbal hops.

    T: Upfront there is a moderate to strong flavors of bready + graham cracker + caramel + dark malts with moderate amounts of dark fruit (red grape + fig) + caramel sweetness. That is followed by moderate flavors Zinfandel grapes, oak woodiness, and Belgian yeast with a hint of spiciness. Finally there are light flavors of herbal hops which impart a light amount of bitterness which fades away quickly leaving moderate lingering Belgian yeast + oak barrel flavors.

    M: Medium to full bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth with a hint of alcohol warming and a touch of dryness in the finish.

    O: This beer has held up amazing well - lucky purchase from a local spot where the owner occasionally pulls things from his cellar and hides them like Easter eggs in the shop. Drinks pretty easily but this is a big beer and was a slow sipper for me. Enjoyable and the Zinfandel grapes are still present.
     
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  18. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    The sausages themselves absorbed much of the glorious liquid, and it imparted a great roasty slightly sweet character. Unfortunately the gravy itself was not a home run. It was overly salty with a bitter component. I based the recipe off a Guinness gravy, Obviously a Guinness is nothing close to the beer I used. But the recipe called for beef broth and even though it was low salt it was still way too much salt for me. Next time I do a take on Zhukov gravy, I would completely scrap the beef broth, and also add a touch more brown sugar to balance. All in all a fun experiment, and the BratZ were delicious, but it was more a basting liquid than a gravy in the end.

    Also, I know you were probably joking about the gravy review, but I just can’t help myself. Ha ha
     
  19. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Even when fresh, I always thought Eclipse had huge variation in profiles from variant to variant and also from year to year. So I am not surprised that with age, one variant is killer and the other is a disappointment.
     
  20. ManBearPat

    ManBearPat Pooh-Bah (1,813) Dec 2, 2014 Colorado
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    No joke, behbeh.. I love meat and stouts so I need to get the whole review
     
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