Cellar Reviews (2022)

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  1. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    My last bottle remaining bottle of Great Divide Old Ruffian. This one bottled Jan 29 2015. RIP to this one and many previously widely distributed barleywine brands that have been discontinued.
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    The formerly aggressive hops have have transformed into an earthy minty spiceyness that rides over top of the caramel malt flavors. Still fairly bitter finish. Sticky mouthfeel, carbonation level is still good.
     
  2. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Cross posting with the Celluary thread (I prefer this one!)

    Who says beers don’t age well….
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    Pours very dark brown, appears opaque due to the dark color but when held to light you can see that it’s translucent. No carbonation of course, but lots of alcohol legs. Aroma is vinous, dark spirits. Huge port wine, brandy, figs, red wine, fusel ethanol. Just divine. Taste is chocolate, brandy, fusel alcohol, oaky bourbon. Dark fruits, mostly fig and dates. Perhaps the slightest bit of carbonation creeping in, with a bit of cardboard. Overall, a stellar beer as always. Of note, for likely obvious reasons this probably isn’t the ideal beer for a cellaring experience as in my opinion it doesn’t change dramatically over the years like most beers. That being said, it’s always an exceptional drinking experience, both fresh and also with these 7 years on it.

    4.5/4.75/4.75/4.5/4.75
    (Original/fresh review: 4.75/4.75/4.75/4.75/5; last cellar review [11/2020]: 4.5/5/4.75/4.5/4.75)

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    Cheers Cellar Dwellers!
     
  3. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,222) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    Going to try to get back in this thread this month. Here's a 2017 DFH 120 Minute IPA. I believe this is 18%, although they don't say on the bottle. Still tasting pretty hot after just over four years. Finish still lingers with strong bitterness. Some citrus, mostly orange, comes through. I think I have a couple 2015 versions hanging around. I may wait another couple years on those.
     
  4. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    I meant to cross post this review for the cellar dwellers last night, but got tied up in the beer and didnt make the post here. Wanted to make sure its shared as, I found this to be a quite pleasant experience.
    Im going to be adding quite a few to the Cellaruary efforts and will try to crosspost each of them here to further encourage our love of vintage brews.

    Ive had this DFH 120 IPA in the cellar since I bought it and Im pretty sure this is a 2004 vintage (plain gold cap), my notes on some older bottles were lost in our last move. I entered a review in Dec 2003 for this beer, so wont do a full review on the site again but will add my thoughts here. I think this beer was around 20% when it was created and more recent vintages hit 18% I believe. FWIW The bottle does say "ages well"
    Onto my review:
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    the beer pours a bright clear mahogany color with some ruby highlights. Almost no head until I am more aggressive with my pour and a get minimal frothy eggshell bubbles around the edge. These forced bubbles do remain. there is some sediment in the beer and I decant while leaving the last cm or so of the beer in the bottle. I dont want the dredges.
    Aroma is dark fruit, with plum and fig notes plus some brown sugar and toffee. I also get a bit of a vinous note A good dose of black peppery fusol alcohol also shines through. Still boozy after all this time!!
    First sip reveals a medium body with very smooth yet slighlty syrupy texture. Very fine almost still carbonation, but it is enough to add a little to the feel.
    Flavor is surprisingly sweet, brown sugar, fig, a bit of a hard candy/rock candy note, and maybe a bit of maple syrup note, (which I know isnt in the beer) but I taste it!! No hint of hops anywhere, sweet malt through and through. I do get a little warming booze on the swallow, but no accompanying bite. Amazing how drinkable this beer is.....But I know not to race through this glass, I do have to work tomorrow AM!!
    I enjoy this 18ish year old beer A LOT!
     
  5. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Cross-posted with the central cellar thread. 2016 Uncle Jacob's Stout from Avery. This is a big boy at 17.1% ABV. I have had several fresh, but never one with 6 years on it.

    Pours jet black with almost no head - just a little light-brown rim. Nose is huge toffee, booze, chocolate, pipe tobacco, roasted malts, black licorice, and some charred wood. So much depth and complexity on the nose.

    The taste is insane. Sweet toffee, bourbon, oak, dark chocolate, plums, and a ton of roasted malts. Black licorice, raisins, and booze! The sweetness and bitterness mingle nicely. This is a sipper!

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  6. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Another cross post with the central cellar thread. 2013 Doggie Claws from Hair of the Dog.

    Pours a nice dark red/brown with a thin layer of head. Looks gorgeous. The nose kicks off with a heavy dose of toffee. Brown sugar, slight hops, freshly baked bread, and a nice layer of dark fruit.

    The taste is incredible. Yes, better than fresh. Beautiful sweet malts, toffee, candy, a little bit of citrus peel, raisins, and a bit of chocolate. Just so smooth. No sharp edges. This is amazing when consumed between 5 and 20 years of age.

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  7. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Ive cross-posted this one with the Cellaruary thread and do this as research into what happens to those old hazies you have forgotten about in your fridge!

    Now as promised, I will provide an entrant that probably shouldnt have been aged. Many will be mad or claim beer abuse for this showing. And some may even wonder how I am not dead from trying to consume the contents.
    I bring you Tree House Curiousity 50!!! A single IPA at 6.6% Canned 7/12/2018.
    Definitely not cellar material.
    But I was on the hop train pretty heavy and definitely buying a lot up in Charlton. Then I just stopped enjoying hazies and also noticed they cause lots of internal "issues" for me. So I have some more floating around, all refrigerated at least. And will be revealing some more as I can during the month. Enjoy this review and take from it what you will. For Science!!!!
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    Im drinking a cold 16 oz can of this beer. Bought at the brewery, duh...and has been in my fridge since then.
    Im pouring into my snifter for this sampling and will not be rolling the can or any other "tricks" for refreshing older hazy IPAs.
    I carefully pour the beer to not stir up the sediment and it pours a slightly cloudy orange to copper color. a dense fluffy bleached white head foams up about 2.5 cm even with my gentle pour. Promising. the foam sticks around and creates dense clingy lattice as I swirl my glass. Looks pretty solid so far.
    Aroma on this beer is citrusy with orange and some peach still too. I actually get some white grape or white wine note too. Definitely still a hop forward nose, just not as robust overall aroma, still pleasant, maybe a little subdued from fresh.
    First sip reveals a medium to light body with fine tingly carbonation with generally slicker texture. Feels a little thinner and definitely doesnt have the creamy soft feel that many TreeHouse brews are known for.
    Flavor is, well mild, I get some orange and peach but also a good bit of rindy and pithy bitter hop that lingers on my palate. Some biscuity malt does roll through as well and the finish dries out my palate completely on each swallow.
    ABV is completely hidden and the beer drinks very easy, but does seem to be a shell of a former beer. No bad flavors or off notes, just a shell. So is it still great?? no...BUT, is it beer poison that should be thrown in the trash, also probably no. But this one didnt hold up to what it previously was. data point recorded.
     
  8. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Cross posted with the Cellaruary Thread. This is getting fun and getting a little nostalgic as I look at some of these old bottles, especially this next one. Onto my next option from the cellar. this one was aged intentionally for "that right moment"...so NOW.
    This is a 2004 vintage from Trout Brook (now Thomas Hooker) of the Old Marley barleywine. From the time while Paul Davis was brewer there (RIP Paul) .
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    This stuff was amazing back in the day and highly sought after. Definitely have hear of issues with older bottles and the gasket flip top opener. So this could be short lived. Opening the bottle is actually tough and the gasket appears to have done its job. phew!
    Onto my review/notes.
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    Beer pours into my snifter a dark opaque black coffee color and is still, a few dozen large bubbles pop up and are gone immediately. The beer looks more like a merlot in the glass and does have decent legs when I shift the glass around.
    Aroma is good, no infection notes here. Lots of dark fruit and malt. Huge fig, plum and port wine character, mixing with toffee and a little bit of tobacco. No hint of hops, and no fusol alcohol either. So far so good.
    First sip reveals a medium body with very slick mouthfeel and zero carbonation. This feels like a wine not a beer. Slightly sticky on my lips but otherwise the beer drinks easy. Feels so much like a port wine. WOW!
    Flavor is some dark chocolate, dark fruits, with plum and fig notes, brown sugar and again red grape and port wine. I also get a little tobacco on the finish along with some chalky cocoa powder. Again, no hops, which isnt a surprise. Booze isnt fusol or black peppery bite anywhere. I do get a little warming after each swallow as the beer hits my belly.
    Is this the beer it was fresh? NOPE. is it a fun and enjoyable experience now?? I think yes.
    Thank you Paul, wish you were here to read this or share the bottle with.....
     
  9. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Cross post from the Cellaruary thread.

    I'm having one of my two remaining Alaskan Smoked Porters, this one from 2015 (9/08/15, to be exact), so 6½ years from bottling. My cellar storage is in the dark most of the time, and is a fairly constant 60°F. I removed the bottle from a refrigerator at ~42° and allowed it to warm for 20 minutes or so before opening, so probably around 50° or so when I took the first sip.

    Alaskan Brewing Smoked Porter (2015)
    ABV: 6.5%
    IBU: 45
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    Very dark, black, clear dark ruby with a back-light, visible carbonation within. Dark khaki head, 1 inch, with excellent retention, leaving sheet lacing.

    The aroma is smoky, but the smoke is not overpowering; it is stronger than subtle, but pleasant. It is a campfire smokiness intermingled with figs to bring a touch of sweetness. Some bright floral notes as well.

    The initial taste is smoke, backed by the dark fruits. No bitterness initially, but it appears in the middle and grows gradually through to the back end, ending with a very good balancing bittering in the finish and aftertaste. The smokiness is nicely done, remaining to the front from the initial sip through into the aftertaste. The taste also features dark fruits (figs) and perhaps molasses, along with a bit of floral. As with the 2014 bottle-date version I had in the Porter tasting last March, the beer is nicely balanced among the smoke, dark fruit, and bittering. The beer actually mellows even more as it warms.

    The mouth feel is smooth and the body is substantial (but not thick).

    This beer, like the 2014 version last year, has aged very well in my cellar. There is no oxidation nor any other off flavors.

    If I look back at my tasting notes when I had the 2014 version fresh (well, almost fresh - in 2015), I would say there is little change, except perhaps for the mellowing of the bitterness. Overall, I would say that, if anything, the beer has improved to my taste. But, I guess that would depend on how bitter you like your smoked porters. The flavors remain intact and well-balanced.

    L: 4.5 | S: 3.75 | T: 4.0 | F: 4.25 | O: 4.25 | Rating: 4.05

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  10. kemoarps

    kemoarps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,256) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    I first enjoyed Reuben's Hat Trick triple IPA when it was released some... 5 or 6 years ago (edit: looking at my review and it was six years ago to the day. Wild.)? I remember enjoying it, and I remember it kind of inspiring in my the question of what's really the difference between a triple IPA and a barleywine?
    Re-reading my review from 2192 days ago, it seems that my main impressions were related to the hops. Big pine. Sap, and some peachiness, but I keep mentioning how heavy the woodiness of the hops are. It was very bitter, and maybe a little overly saturated but mainly just heavy hop bitterness.

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    I have been hanging onto it since then, partly specifically waiting for hockey to come to Seattle. Well, I was out of town for the season opener, and had to work for the Kraken's first hat trick, so instead of waiting for the perfect moment, I figured cracking it in honour of, and while watching a replay of, the NHL all star game and some highlights from the women's olympic hockey games.
    Drinking it now after having sat for about six years and there's still a good hop presence, but it is less domineering, and is balanced by a good caramel sweetness that has grown into prominence. It really does feel like a decent barleywine, with still a fair amount of hop presence, but much more malt sweetness to balance it out. I think this has been a successful aging-experiment!

    Go Kraken! Nice goal, Ebs!
     
  11. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Cross posted from the Cellaruary thread
    My oldest bottle of Stone IRS I have left - 2010 Spring Release. In general I have stopped aging most Imperial stouts past 1 or 2 years, but this is one that holds up even at 12 years old now, the bomber format may have helped. Pours with plenty of carbonation and head, pleasant aroma of fudgey brownie, dark caramel, a touch of licorice and smoke. Similar flavors in the taste, complex yet smooth, just the slightest hints of negative oxidation. Full bodied, but drinks so easy for a 10.5% abv beer.
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  12. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    2012 DFH Olde School

    As it warms, amazingly this still has a little heat in the nose. But mostly a ton of raisin and fig, a bit of pipe tobacco. Taste is similar, fairly sweet but not cloying. The booziness is only in the smell, drinks like a "normal" beer, not a 15% abv monster. Syrupy sticky mouthfeel, carbonation is mild.
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  13. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Another cross post from the Cellaruary thead...

    This beer has been carefully cellared by me from the time it was fresh. I had one when fresh, another at some point over the years (but no notes from #2, sadly), and now opening my next to last from the original 4-pack. At least this time I have proper Belgian glassware!

    Central Waters Brewing Co Brewer's Reserve Belgian Style Quadruple Ale (2017 bottling)
    ABV: 10.0%
    IBU: NA
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    No ABV is noted on the bottle; my notes from 2017 say it is 10% ABV, but the current listing shows it as 11.9%. Either way, hopefully making for a nice evening sipping beer!

    Brown from the front; bright ruby with a backlight; murky clarity with sparse rising bubbles. Short off-white head that disappears relatively quickly to a thin cap island in the center surrounded by an off-white ring. around the edge. Nice looking lacing as I tip the glass, some sticks, most slides down. No visible floaties acquired with age (a bit surprised by that).

    The aroma brings the bourbon and dark fruit front and center. Very good.

    The bourbon in the flavor is muted, but there behind everything. The flavor is predominately sweet dark fruit. Gobs of malty goodness, dark fruit, backed by bourbon flavors and alcohol warmth. No bittering. The overall sweetness carries through to the finish and aftertaste, but never becomes cloying; always staying in bounds, tempered a bit I think by the alcohol.

    The body is moderate and the feel is smooth with a bit of warming.

    Overall, this one has maintained over the past 5 years in my cellar. I can't say it has improved, but (based on both my tasting notes, rating when fresh, and memory) neither has it degraded. At least not much. Perhaps lost a touch of complexity, and the original bitterness is gone, that is all.

    L: 4.0 | S: 4.25 | T: 4.0 | F: 4.0 | O: 4.0 | Rating: 4.05

    2017 rating: 4.07
    2022 rating: 4.05

    So, if not a beer that has improved at 5 years, it is a beer that is equally enjoyable. I have one more in the cellar. Maybe next year. In the meantime, perhaps it is time to re-stock a bit now that my cellar is under control numbers-wise.
     
  14. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Just picked up a sixer of fresh 2022 SN Bigfoot. So I decided to do a side by side with 5 year old and 10 year old bottles. Left to right, 2012, 2017, 2022. All in my cellar since purchase when fresh. I have a few other vintages older and younger but figured these are good round numbers.

    Not much difference in appearance really at all. All three are about the same clear dark copper color, and have excellent head retention while leaving rings of lacing on the glasses. Aroma goes the opposite direction as would be intuitive, as its "bolder" oldest to youngest. The aroma moves from a mixture of toffee and spicy pine resin in the oldest to all bright floral hops and orange rind in the fresh. 2012 taste hits mild molasses, mint, and rum - starts sweet, but underlying bitterness, but long finish. 2017 the malt flavor is less developed, and the hop bitterness is stronger. 2022 not unexpectedly has the most hop flavor, but still balanced with the caramel malt. Stickiness in the mouthfeel increases with the age.

    Overall it's still surprising when some of these classic strongly hopped American Barleywines are still have a bold hop bitterness after a decade.
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  15. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    A 2017 bottling of Central Waters Brewer's Reserve Bourbon Barrel Stout.

    It's been my experience that Imperial Stouts tend to not do as well as cellar beers as do barleywines, wee heavies, and quads. But, as this is a simple barrel-aged stout, with no flavoring adjunks, it may be OK.

    Central Waters Brewing Co. Brewer's Reserve Bourbon Barrel Stout 2017 in 2022
    (with the label a bit worse for wear...)
    ABV: 9.5%
    IBU: NA
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    Deep and dark, with nothing visible, even with a backlight. Short tan/khaki head, thick, with good retention. Sheet lacing quickly becomes strings and loops and then slides down into the beer.

    Excellent aroma. I could smell it as soon as I poured. Dark fruits and chocolate, roasted coffee (even though it is not a coffee beer), something slightly sweet, perhaps vanilla.

    The bourbon hits on the initial sip, but not overpowering. The flavors foretold by the aroma are all there; dark fruits first, then vanilla, then a bit of chocolate and roasted malts. Alcohol warmth on the finish and in the aftertaste. Very good. The bourbon and alcohol does become more prominent as the beer warms.

    The body is on the thick side of moderate, but not viscous thick as some Imperial stouts are. Smooth.

    2017 in 2022: L: 4.5 | S: 4.25 | T: 4.25 | F: 4.0 | O: 4.25 | Rating: 4.24

    Unfortunately, I did not do a review of the 2017 fresh, nor the 2nd bottle from the 4-pack that I had some point in the past, but I do have notes from the 2016 batch that I can compare with this one.

    Here are my notes from 6 years ago, fresh:

    Killer aroma bourbon, chocolate, vanilla, fruit, coffee, roasted malts + more. Very dark with a 1 inch tan, creamy head that recedes moderately fast to a thin cover with some irregular lacing. Moderately carbonated. Very smooth, creamy mouth feel. Taste of bourbon, chocolate, roasted malts - but not as much as in the aroma. Moderate bittering arrives in the middle and finish. After some alcohol in the initial taste, it recedes to be well controlled and hidden in the middle and finish, but returns as alcohol warmth in the aftertaste.

    L: 4.25 | S: 4.5 | T: 4.0 | F: 4.25 | O: 4.25 | Rating: 4.21
     
  16. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Nice review. Opened a 2015 the other night & it was dead; veering into mustiness & thinner than a glass of water. I guess 6-7 years is too much on this fella.
     
  17. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    2002 JW Lees Harvest Ale. Was waiting for the 20 year mark for this one, will be the oldest beer I've drank. Its been in my cellar for about the last decade or so, at the time I bought it from a shop selling vintage bottles (which I believe the brewery or importer releases vintage bottles).

    Poured into the snifter leaving the sediment into the glass. Swigged that from the bottle for good health! Pours with no head, but a touch of carbonation. Wonderfully complex aroma - plum, dates, raisin, black cherry, pipe tobacco, a touch of spiced rum. Taste starts with similar flavors, slightly sweet, but finishes with more of a toffee flavor. Medium bodied, slick feel from the low carbonation level. Overall very enjoyable.

    Ive had a lot of various ages of this beer and I think about 10 years is my favorite as at that point is has a ton of butterscotch and caramel. Older than that is when it moves into more the dark fruits and port wine flavors.
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  18. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

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  19. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,716) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
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    Cross posted with Cellaruary Thread. Glad to see so many cellar reviews and getting some connections to this cellar dweller thread!!
    Matt commemorative strong ale vintage 2019 bottle. I have several other bottles from the cellar sale on their website and will probably be opening more of them over the next couple weeks.
    Onto my review:
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    Sampling a cellar temp 12 oz bottle poured into my snifter. Purchased about a year ago from the Brewery and shipped to my house. Bottle has been in the cellar since then and is a 2019 vintage.
    The beer pours a dark cola brown that exhibits some ruby highlighting on the edges when held to a light source.
    Minimal beige frothy head foams up after aggressively pouring the second half of the bottle. ALmost seemed still up until that point. Surprisingly the foam remains a tightly packed edge layering that remains throughout this sampling.
    The aroma is big and robust malt character. I get molasses and raisins with some notes of wood and also a decent amount of smokiness, which is surprising to have carried for 3 ish years. there is also a little bit of tobacco leaf and some wooden notes and some bourbon notes that sweeten up the nose. Not really boozy and the smoke and bourbon intertwine and dominate the nose. I Dont get any hops nor any booze on this aroma.
    First sip reveals a light to medium body and almost still carbonation. It is very fine and spacious almost non-existent. Feel is a little slick and texture is smooth, the beer drinks easy for the physical traits. Yet somehow still tells me its a sipper.
    Flavor is some molasses and bourbon with a bit of sweet raisin and this rolls to some smoked notes and char, more ashy than smoked meat. There is a bit of black peppery bite but not really any warmth. No hop notes and I do find the char to be a little harsh on the finish. Overall an enjoyable beer and glad I could get this from HOTD, but I think I would pass on another bottle due to the charred note.

    3.89 in the BA DB
     
  20. CurtisD

    CurtisD Savant (1,206) Aug 16, 2012 Canada (NB)
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    Cross posted from the Cellaruary thread. Bottle had a best before date of October 2018. Not sure when it would have been bottled. Still drinking very nicely, I’ve been having one periodically since September 2017 and still have another four. Brown sugar, dark fruits, and a bit of booze on both the nose and taste. I really love these high ABV Baltic porters and RIS with no adjuncts.
     
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