Changes to Deschutes Fresh Squeezed

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  1. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    At the Portland brewery right now and very dissapointed with the changes to Fresh Squeezed...due to limited Citra supply, they've cut the Citra by 30% and attempted to make up for it with coriander. The beer taste nothing like the juicy IPA I absolutely love and can't imagine this being the permanent incarnation.

    What are your thoughts on this PNW staple and it's change?
     
    #1 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  2. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Citra... Coriander?

    Does not compute. ERROR ERROR WRRROROOROROROOROROROOROROOR
     
    #2 distantmantra, Jul 28, 2015
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  3. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I'm right there with you!
     
    #3 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  4. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Huh? Think someone is messing with you.
     
    #4 nesarebad, Jul 28, 2015
  5. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Nope...the bartender, waitress, hostess and a (off duty) brewer confirmed. The beer tastes nothing like it's former self.
     
    #5 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  6. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    I think 4 people are messing with you.
     
    #6 nesarebad, Jul 28, 2015
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  7. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Hahahahahaha...don't think so.

    They said they are adding Nugget as well, in small percentages later in the boil & at dry hop (they use Nugget for the bittering hop already) to make up for the Citra, along with the coriander. The coriander was obvious in the taste and the nose was completely off. I've homebrewed Fresh Squeezed for a couple of years based on a recipe one of the brewers gave me on a previous visit, and am very familiar with this beer...it's not close to the old Fresh Squeezed anymore.
     
    #7 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  8. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    They post the homebrew recipe on their website. Are you sure you were not drinking Chain Breaker, their IPA that has coriander in it?
     
    #8 nesarebad, Jul 28, 2015
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  9. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Nope...Fresh Squeezed for sure
     
    #9 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  10. aratcliffe

    aratcliffe Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Kansas

    Well, let's just see what makes it into bottles, shall we?
     
    #10 aratcliffe, Jul 28, 2015
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  11. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I agree...I'm curious if it's just at the brewery, and if in bottles, when?
     
    #11 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  12. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    The idea that Deschutes 1) was unable to secure a contract for the hops necessary for a production beer, and 2) opted to revise the recipe with coriander rather than another hop variety/blend or simply scaling back production of the original recipe is unbelievable. Consistency is paramount for breweries of that size, and an unorthodox substitution like that borders on ridiculous. I'm not doubting someone or even multiple someones told that story to you, but it's implausible that the brewery would change a beer that way.
     
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  13. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    That's what I thought...but supply and demand can create crazy bedfellows evidently.
     
    #13 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  14. NoahMayes

    NoahMayes Initiate (0) May 14, 2015 Texas

    Fresh fresh squeezed is killer
     
    #14 NoahMayes, Jul 28, 2015
  15. PortlandAlePatrol

    PortlandAlePatrol Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2014 Oregon

    DrMindbender is correct, fresh squeezed has been off for a month or so at our PDX pub:slight_frown:
     
    #15 PortlandAlePatrol, Jul 28, 2015
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  16. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    In the OP, dude says he was there "now". If the beer has been off for a month, then what beer was he drinking, that 4 staff members told him was Fresh Squeezed with coriander?
     
    #16 BBThunderbolt, Jul 28, 2015
  17. PortlandAlePatrol

    PortlandAlePatrol Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2014 Oregon

    We are there 3-4 x a week, it has been off (IMHO) since beginning of the month, also was told that FS IPA in Bend taste different.
    I would go for Citrus Mistress!
     
    #17 PortlandAlePatrol, Jul 28, 2015
  18. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    What? I was drinking the modified Fresh Squeezed, even after they told me upfront that the recipe had seen a change. Evidently, this change had been in effect for a month now, according to @PortlandAlePatrol . Not sure where your disconnect with information is?
     
    #18 DrMindbender, Jul 28, 2015
  19. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    The opt for coriander in place of the Citra makes sense. Many studies have shown that the oils in Citra actually mirror many of the oil compounds found in Indian Coriander (not Mexican which tastes like bologna). Probably doesn't actually work out to a perfect match, but if you can't get the hops, gotta figure out something.
     
    #19 jbakajust1, Jul 28, 2015
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  20. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Now I'm really confused. Post directly above mine says that "fresh squeezed has been off for a month or so at our PDX pub". So, if Fresh squeezed hasn't been on tap for a month, yet you were drinking it yesterday, what beer were you actually drinking? Was it a new Fresh squeezed with coriander? Was it Chain Breaker, which is brewed with coriander? Was it something else? I got so many confuses.:confused:
     
    #20 BBThunderbolt, Jul 28, 2015
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