Chilling exposed

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  1. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    A recent thread on whirpooling brought this on all of you:

    I'm just curious how many people cover their kettles when they chill their wort? Personally, I paid about as much for my aluminum kettle as I would for a new lid online. I leave my kettle open and chill in about 20 minutes. I've never whilpooled and would probably be worried about leaving the kettle open for much longer without a cover. I'd like to think I'm just getting soft.
     
  2. Gunslinger711

    Gunslinger711 Zealot (663) Apr 16, 2010 Indiana

    In a sink full of ice, water and salt, with intermittent whirlpooling I get 3 gallons (pre-boil) down around 68 F in about 45 minutes. Once I get close to that I stop whirlpooling and cover for 5-10 minutes to let all the trub/nastiness/mash gremlins settle to the bottom.
     
  3. WeaponTheyFear

    WeaponTheyFear Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Connecticut

    I've never covered my wort when cooling even when I was beginning and never whirlpooled. Sometimes it'd take me 45 minutes to cool a 5 gallon batch but I never got any infections.
     
  4. jncastillo87

    jncastillo87 Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2013 Texas

    I put the boil pot in a ice bath in a standard kitchen sink with lid off.... Stir the hell out of the wort continually and its literally cools down to about 80 degrees in 15 mins, then I add one gallon of chilled ( 35-40 ) ozarka water to finish off the cooling process. I never cover and it I have never had an issue.
     
  5. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Chill 6.5 gallons with immersion chiller, lid off, and gently whirlpool with a cordless drill with stainless paddle attachment. I get below 140 in a minute, and depending on time of year, Nov-Mar I can get to ale pitching temps in about 6 minutes. I leave the lid off because I don't like the possibility of condensation to fall back in as I am removing the lid. I've never had an infection.
     
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  6. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    That's an excellent, quick time to get to pitching temps. I would barely have the fermenter ready in that amount of time. As-is for me lately, my immersion chiller gets it done in 15 minutes or so.

    And I also leave the lid off at first, although I will cover it after it is getting cooler, especially if I have to run inside to grab something toward the end of chilling.
     
  7. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I put a lid on the kettle during my 20 minute whirlpool and throughout the chilling process. It doesn't cover the kettle completely, since the IC keeps it ajar. This is mainly an effort to keep bugs and other assorted flying stuff out of the beer.
     
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  8. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    It would take double that the rest of the year so I use tap water to get down to about 120, then ice water the rest of the way. The paddle attachment makes it fly down.
     
  9. Genuine

    Genuine Maven (1,347) May 7, 2009 Connecticut

    I've been keeping the lid off and whirlpooling by using my IC. Still takes a good 45 min. I've been thinking that it would be worth it to go with a counter flow chiller to get things chilled quicker, easier and get to pitching temps a hell of a lot faster.
     
  10. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Get a sanitized spoon and stir gently every 30 seconds. It will drop your temps much faster assuming you are using cool input water, a sufficient length and diameter of tubing, and flow rate.
     
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  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Stir the wort in the opposite direction of the water flowing through the immersion chiller, and you'll have some of the benefit of a counterflow chiller.
     
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  12. Genuine

    Genuine Maven (1,347) May 7, 2009 Connecticut

    Now there's some ideas to try out!
     
  13. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    Basically the exact same situation as mikehartigan. Lid on to keep insects out.

    I am not able to whirpool so it usually takes 15-20 minutes to get down to 60-65. Got a sub pump that I started using in May because last summer sucked chilling without one. I could only get the wort down to 70-75 and it would take 40 minutes.
     
  14. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Adding a pump and a whirlpool attachment to your IC will be cheaper ($125-ish), easier (much easier to keep clean), and just as effective as a CFC (10-20 minutes for a ten gallon batch). Plus you'll have a pump!:slight_smile:
     
  15. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    No lid here,just an immertion chiller. I get 12 gallons chilled to pitch temps in 30 min.
     
  16. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    My turkey fryer lid fits perfectly on my keggle. I had my welder cut a notch out of the side for the IC pipes to fit though, it also works great for the probe thermomter hanging on the side of the HLT (turkey fryer) during the strike and sparge water heating. I cover to keep stuff from getting into the kettle during the chill. Depending on whether my hop strainer clogs or not (more often than not) I can get down to pitching temps in about 15 mins, but I typically do a 20-30 min hop stand at the end as well.
     
  17. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    Outside, 20 - 30 min hop stands, then about 15 - 20 min to chill. Once I get wort temp below 100 degrees I'll cover it, sometimes, so far so good.
     
  18. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I guess I really don't know that much about whirlpooling. It sounds like its for hop forward beers at 180Fish for about 20 minutes and then you chill like normal? Is this with a typical hop schedule 60,20, 10, 5, KO, or is there more hop added later to the boil since there's an increase of IBUs?
     
  19. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad

    Yep - I put a lid on and drape a couple of tea towels over the opening where the immersion chiller prevents the lid from fully seating. I've considered cutting a slot in the lid for the chiller but probably won't ever end up doing it.
     
  20. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I used to put my lid on my kettle while my wort chiller sat in the kettle intermittently stirring the wort. That approach took about 20-30 minutes depending on the time of yea to get my wort down to the ~60sf.

    I now continuously stir my wort with the chiller in the wort no lid. This takes me about 5-15 minutes to get to the 60s now depending on my ground water temp. I've had no infected batches with this approach with my top off.
     
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