Chocolate pecan pie porter?

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  1. prock180

    prock180 Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2013 Arizona

    Thinking about trying this to drink on during the holidays. Heres what I came up with.
    Keep in mind I only brew extract beers.
    6.6#Light lme
    1#Light dme
    1#Chocolate malt
    1#Pie crust or graham crackers
    .5#Crystal 60
    .5#Flaked oats
    1#Pecans
    .5Roasted barley
    .5#Molasses or dark corn syrup
    2 oz or so dark bakers chocolate
    I'm thinking northern brewer hops.

    Any yeast advice along with all other advice are welcome and much appreciated.

    Cheers!
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    There is a problem with "only brew extract" and "pie crust/graham crackers." Starches in these ingredients need to be mashed to convert them to sugar so you don't have a bunch of starch in your beer. Also, those pie crusts have fat, which will hurt head retention. People have used pie as an ingredient before, but these are the sort of obstacles in your path. The pecans will similarly add fat.

    Pecan pie typically has Karo syrup, which is sparingly fermentable according to old sock's sugar experiment from long ago. It has a bit of vanilla in it, too. You might try a different sugar and a bit of real vanilla.

    It sounds like something I would drink, but might be trouble to brew.
     
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  3. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

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  4. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    The flaked oats are going to be a starchy problem also if not mashing.
     
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  5. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I'd nix the molasses and use 1# dark brown sugar. And would not use Northern brewer hops. Crystal or EKG would be my choice.
     
  6. prock180

    prock180 Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2013 Arizona

    Thanks ba's. Good point about the starches and fat. I think I will sub the pie crust for a lb of carabrown and maybe a little victory?

    Also going to add the brown sugar instead of molasses and maybe add some vanilla. I think the oats are fine, I usually use a lb of oats in all my beers with no negative results as far as I can tell.

    I might change the hops we'll see, why wouldn't you use nb hops(just wondering) ?

    Lastely I'm kind of stumped on what yeast to use. What do you guys recommend?

    Thanks again and cheers!
     
  7. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    A big pitch of Scottish ale yeast. WY1728

    More often than not, the correct yeast answer is WY1728.
     
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  8. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I would retool this recipe myself. 1 lb Chocolate Wheat, 1/2 lb Pale Chocolate, 1 lb C60, 1 lb C80, lactose for sweetness and lme to get me to the desired gravity. I would then add a pecan extract instead of the nuts.
     
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  9. prock180

    prock180 Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2013 Arizona

    Hmm, never used that yeast. I think I'll give it a go. Cheers!
     
  10. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    You could always dry-pie with a store-bought pie.
     
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  11. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Windsor yeast also makes a fine Porter
     
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  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Licorice and treacle are a nice change of pace in a porter
     
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  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Victory is another malt that should be mashed. Not steeped.

    Haze and bug food would be the two most common problems associated with unconverted starches in your beer. But if you're not experiencing those (or don't care), you might as well use the victory malt too.
     
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  14. prock180

    prock180 Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2013 Arizona

    So would you guys recommend changing the recipe to something similar to what @kellyst posted?
     
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  15. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Change the 1 lb light dme to dark dme
    lose the graham crackers and molasses
    consider 1 lb of victory or Belgium buiskit malt
    1 lb dark munich malt
    and I'd keep the pecans cause I prefer using raw ingrediants instead of extracts.
     
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  16. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Curious myself. I have not seen pecan extract, I'm sure it exists though.
     
  17. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    OP isn't mashing, so I would avoid these malts
     
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  18. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I would vote against using dark dme. Even for dark beers I would use a light extract and use specialty grains to hit your color. I specifically mentioned chocolate wheat and pale chocolate so you can get more chocolate flavor and less roasty coffee flavor.
     
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  19. prock180

    prock180 Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2013 Arizona

    What if I steeped for a hour? Would that help any? Thanks.
     
  20. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

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