Cigars & Beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by damngoode, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. Highbrow

    Highbrow Jan 7, 2011 California
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    thanks.

    it was an older Monte "C" EL
     
  2. jrbchef

    jrbchef Feb 24, 2011 Connecticut

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    This was a Fuente Anjeo #77, aka, Shark. I like a nice Barley wine with most cigars.
     
  3. diesel59

    diesel59 Jan 3, 2012 New York

    smokin' cuts into your drinkin' time...........................
     
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  4. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    My thoughts exactly on the barleywine!
     
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  5. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Jun 18, 2002 Arizona

    Given this is a beer site I gave my beer recommendation , but like most above I strongly prefer cigars with spirits - bourbon ideally. Or Porto. Beer is just not high on my list here.
     
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  6. randylangford

    randylangford Jun 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Avery's the demons of Ale go great with cigars.
     
  7. hoparoundnw2337

    hoparoundnw2337 Aug 6, 2011 Washington
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    Double Crooked Tree & Macanudo (ascots) when in the mood for a lighter fare. Or any strong with bourbon influence...
     
  8. Reinbeck11

    Reinbeck11 Aug 15, 2012 Iowa

    All I know is life is better with a beer and cigar.

    If I must choose I'd take a St. Bernardus, Tripel, with a nice Padron 5000, swinging in a hammock on the deck of a Avon, NC beach house. Slowly drifting off into oblivian and waking up to an apple ugly from a bakery in Nags Head.

    Sorry, those O degree temps are forcing me to think of some warmer times.....
     
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  9. falcon1

    falcon1 Jan 28, 2006 Ohio

    Tatuaje Havana Cazadores and Cigar City Marshal Zhukov's Imperial Stout!
     
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  10. Horbar

    Horbar Feb 24, 2012 Rhode Island

    Cigars ruin my beer. But a nice cigar is great when not drinking my brews.
     
  11. betterbgood

    betterbgood Aug 23, 2008 Ohio

    i just picked up a Ashton Cabinet No. 10, gonna make some traditional black and tans...Guiness/Bass
     
  12. theCoder

    theCoder Oct 24, 2011 Minnesota
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    I support this thread :) my fav combo is something barrel aged and a cigar.
     
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  13. HomeBrewed

    HomeBrewed Dec 10, 2006 Minnesota
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    I've never smoked pipe tobacco, but Grandpa always used too and I always loved the smell...if I were to purchase a pipe, what tobacco would you recommend I seek out? Maybe a few options...thanks
     
  14. BeerWizard

    BeerWizard Dec 22, 2012 Colorado

    Pipe and a stout sounds good.
     
  15. BrownAleMale

    BrownAleMale Dec 14, 2011 Wisconsin
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    I am gonna echo what most people have already said which is the darker the beer the darker the cigar. I like pairing the Camacho triple maduro with a good big stout. For IPAs, a good sungrown wrappe like an Ashton ESG or VSG.
     
  16. BrownAleMale

    BrownAleMale Dec 14, 2011 Wisconsin
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    This happens sometimes too, its really trial and error. I normally would never try a pairing with a beer or cigar whale.
     
  17. theCoder

    theCoder Oct 24, 2011 Minnesota
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    I have a Peterson Pipe, all handmade and have a wonderful velvet pouch for carrying it if you don't have another way to carry it. I have this one:
    http://pipesandcigars.com/pekipired69p.html#.UQ7DBb_LSSo

    I have a pouch similar to this (it holds your pipe or two depending on the pipe(s) you have and 2 oz of tobacco):
    http://pipesandcigars.com/jumaxvelepo.html#.UQ7DWL_LSSo

    For tobacco, I always recommend a nice smooth tobacco, Virginia Black is nice and has little notes of cherry in it. I smoke the IQ Mix from Lewis Pipes and Cigars in Minneapolis, MN. Its amazing, has notes of vanilla, cherry and is smooth and sweet. I love it and it is wonderful when aged (Yes pipe tobacco like fine beers can be aged and if it dries up a bit just open the baggie and sprinkle in a capful of water and close it back up, it'll re-humidify quickly)
     
  18. HomeBrewed

    HomeBrewed Dec 10, 2006 Minnesota
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    Cool...thanks for the advice...I will look into the IQ Mix as I live not too far from MPLS.
     
  19. Casedogg43

    Casedogg43 Jan 4, 2012 Indiana
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    BA Stouts and a nice cigar go very well together!!
     
  20. jamiejohnson

    jamiejohnson Aug 4, 2007 California

    I'm with an earlier poster, I like a milder cigar that doesn't overpower my brew

    I live in S. FL and in Little Havana is this. It's a really cool place. Only in Miami.

    http://www.cubancrafters.com/
     
  21. PeterJ

    PeterJ Dec 5, 2012 California

    Big Bad Baptist and a Cohiba 1966 for the Super Bowl. The coffee notes in the beer and cigar are almost perfect.
     
  22. dumptruck81

    dumptruck81 Dec 28, 2011 Texas
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    For the most part I'm also in the cigar and spirits camp. That's not to say that a cigar can't go really well with a good beer when you're in the right mood. Cigars a very much so a full flavored experience that can easily overwhelm the beer you're drinking.
     
  23. Guy-T

    Guy-T Jan 21, 2013 Michigan

    Laphroiag and any Ashton!!
     
  24. theCoder

    theCoder Oct 24, 2011 Minnesota
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    Seriously amazing pipe tobacco, Lewis himself makes some incredible pipes too (He sells Peterson pipes there too, for around web prices) but man his pipes are beautiful (he's a master uh pipemaker? and does pipe repairs as well), however they're pricey. I think his pipes he makes are around $300-400 but man they are all one of a kind and pieces of art.
     
  25. Localdrinklax

    Localdrinklax Jul 23, 2010 Wisconsin
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    [​IMG] With a Undercrown cigar, awesome.
     
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  26. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    Rocky Patel anything is gonna be a great cigar. But I really enjoy the 1991 and 92 miniatures 5-packs. I'm kind of new to cigar smoking, but I've come to realize that smaller cigars taste a lot better than bigger ones
     
  27. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    last night I was drinking Ten Fidy's and smoking a Hoyo de Monterey. The beer was so much better than the cigar by leaps and bounds
     
  28. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    I am starting to feel a bit like Marquis, railing against the BJCP, when I see the topic of pairing cigars and beer. But I will continue to say it; Cigars and beer? Sure! But pair a good cigar with a good beer and one, the other or both will be nullified. The idea of, and yes I had to learn the hard way, wasting either a great beer or great cigar is abhorrent to me. Pair them when you don't give a shit what either tastes like and you'll be happy. As for me, I reach for The Balvenie.
     
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  29. Highbrow

    Highbrow Jan 7, 2011 California
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    i wouldn't quite go so far as to say "don't give a shit what either tastes like", but i definitely agree with this sentiment in terms of not going into a cigar & beer pairing with expectations beyond it being an experience & 1 you may or may not enjoy. one will probably be very disappointed if they show up with "epic stick" to pair with "epic ale" expecting to have some combined holy grail experience.

    it's rare that i get the opportunity to torch a cigar. when i do it's even rarer with beer, but typically if i do pair the 2... the beer, like the cigar, is just 1 of the multiple conversation pieces involved in the experience. what's not featured in a picture i included above is the fact that i was waiting on a friend (3rd pic.) - who was bringing his own preferred gar to enjoy with the Abyss we split. we were busy yapping & shooting the shit whereas i wasn't really paying strict attention to the precise taste of any of the particular items we went through - just that all were pleasant/unoffensive.
     
  30. StogiesNSuds

    StogiesNSuds Sep 24, 2009 New York

    I've been exploring the pairing of beer and cigars for longer than I care to reveal. Barleywines and other high ABV brews (esp. aged Thomas Hardy ale, if you can find it, RISs, Utopias, etc) with a nice malt backbone are a good place to begin a pairing. As for a cigar, the best place to start, I've found, is to find one with little to no ligero, which is the strongest grade of filler tobacco used in a cigar. Aside from having a terrible combustion rate, ligero tends to blast the palate. Good for after a big meal, but not for pairing with beer. Illusione's Epernay blend contains zero ligero, and pairs well with Belgian beers and a slew of others. Tatuaje's Cabaiguan, I believe, is also sans ligero.

    Connecticut-wrapped cigars are also a good place to start, as they tend to offer a sweeter smoke and most cigarmakers abstain from ramping up the spice levels when blending with it. St. Paddy's day bring a deluge of candelas, which usually have a nice creaminess to their smoke that lines up well with beers. Beer, unlike spirits, is more of a finesse pairing. Whereas a spirit can heavily influence the overall character of smoke, beer usually finds only one or two flavors to play around with. It's hard to find a "home run" pairing, in the sense that both smoke and drink are complimenting each other. It's not impossible, though.

    Another thing I've found is cigars tend to balance out beers very well. Using @highbrow awesome collection of Cubans as an example, the saltiness of some Bolivar and Partagás Cubans play really well with sweet, malty beers, much like salt in chocolate. Pepper in a cigar can bring out the subtle pepper notes in a beer, say, a saison.

    IPAs, aside from Imperials, are tricky with cigars, as they tend to cut through smoke. If you are a fan of bitter, though, a cigar can play well with the FINISH of an IPA, but that's an acquired taste, best for after a big meal, too.

    At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all douche, I do write about this subject extensively. Here's an index of my articles: http://www.cigaraficionado.com/category/index/id/16/topic/91/traverse/N#top
     
  31. PeterJ

    PeterJ Dec 5, 2012 California

    Hoyo Double Coronas (the real Hoyos) are one of my all time favorites but they are too light for something like Ten Fidy. They'd be great with a Van de Kaizer Red though.
     
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  32. PeterJ

    PeterJ Dec 5, 2012 California

    Are you Jack Bettridge??
     
  33. StogiesNSuds

    StogiesNSuds Sep 24, 2009 New York

    Haha, no. His co-worker/protégé.
     
  34. kdb150

    kdb150 Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Beer and cigars do not mix well. Maybe a more mild cigar would be, but I would never ruin both an Opus X and a good beer by trying to have them both at the same time. At least, never again - I've tried before, and it just doesn't work. Stick to bourbon or scotch, something that has a far more concentrated flavor that can compete with the cigar, but not mix unfavorably with it like hops do, or have the complexity or depth of flavor lost like typically happens with a RIS or something barrel aged. If you must try anyways, Utopias would probably work - the sweetness probably would hold up to the cigar nicely.
     
  35. beercanman

    beercanman Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    Gotta have a single malt with a cigar. Beer does nothing for me
     
  36. PeterJ

    PeterJ Dec 5, 2012 California

    Nice! Jack is great. We've chit chatted a few times about distillery barrel programs, IIRC. Nothing better than cigars and booze!

    You just reminded me my CA subscription expired. Or is it cA now? Lol
     
  37. SteelCity75

    SteelCity75 Jan 14, 2013 Connecticut

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    My combo of choice. Pipe smokers unite! :)
     
  38. eggmaggi

    eggmaggi Aug 11, 2012 Oregon

    Barley wines and cigars definitely do not compliment each other. I can't taste the Bigfoot i'm drinking..
     
  39. djrn2

    djrn2 Nov 4, 2009 New Jersey
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    For me, I like IIPA's with a strong spicy cigar like an Opus X.

    And a smooth robust cigar like a La Gloria Cubana with a Imperial Stout.
     
  40. HevvyMetalHippie

    HevvyMetalHippie Nov 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    When I was down south, I had some chocolate/sweet flavored cigar which I normally never have, with a chocolate stout. It was awesome. Smoking makes me want to drink, drinking makes me want to smoke. Plus there's nothing better than drinking on a porch swing from a plastic milk jug growler fill wearing cowboy boots.

    #WINNING
     
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