Cleaning Copper Immersion Chiller

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  1. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I while back, I didn't clean my copper manifold for a while after brewing and it developed a black oxidized layer. Something Palmer said or wrote made me realize I could take it off by soaking in star san and then scrubbing.

    I now have a lot of oxidation on my chiller. I soaked it in Star San, and the darkened layer will now scrub off. But scrubbing is a pain because of the coils - it's hard to get all the surface area. Recommendations?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    IIRC, soaking in a vinegar solution will dissolve it. At least I seem to remember doing that to clean new chillers.
     
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  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    That may be why I soaked in star san - acid action. Maybe with more patience, it will dissolve completely without need for scrubbing. I'll give it more time before switching to white vinegar.
     
  4. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I soak in starsan, and from time to time, I will use a green scrubby pad and knock some of the oxidized layer off of it.


    I haven't brewed in a while, but will be next weekend, and will probably pull it all out to give it all a little TLC. LMK what works for you, as I'd like to knock mine out before it gets too much.
     
  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    A few hours in Star San and the scrubby pad did the trick. I was hoping for the lazy approach. It came off easily, but not without a little elbow grease.
     
  6. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Fair enough.. It's what I've done in the past, and will probably continue to do then. Thinking a salty vinegar soak and a pipe cleaner wrap brush might make quick work.
     
  7. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Stainless steel. :grinning::wink:
     
  8. KingTelephone

    KingTelephone Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2014 Michigan

    Mine cleaned up nicely after I used TSP.
     
  9. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

  10. YamBag

    YamBag Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I use PBW
     
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  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I believe copper is a better conductor of heat, so my coil might be more efficient than stainless. But the true reason I haven't upgraded is inertia.
     
  12. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    White Distilled Vinegar the cheaper the better. Use one part of Vinegar + five part of worm water 105F and let it sock over night. Then give it nice wash.
     
  13. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Fair enough. FWIW, copper appears to be only marginally better than SS.

     
  14. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Copper is a better conductor, but this application is convection-conduction-convection. SS will have about 88%.of the heat transfer compared to copper for this case.
     
  15. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    That shows that there is only a marginal advantage for copper. One thing that also should be taken into consideration is that copper tubing has thicker walls than a same size SS tubing, well at least visually for the tubing I have.
     
  16. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    But what about the physics of inertia? My chiller and I, we are objects at rest.

    Seriously, if I were to do it all over again today, I might not find a $25 used copper chiller on ebay, in which case I would probably go SS.
     
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  17. basscram

    basscram Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2006 Maine

    On brewnight. just the way I do things. I never have that black layer that you guys talk of. I rinse off the chiller. I then soak it overnight ( if I don't feel like cleaning it right away) in pbw and rinse the next day. no problems.
     
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