"Clone" IPAs Recipe Critique - Extract

In general you would need to mash the oats and wheat in the second recipe, although I don't know, is that what people are doing to make their NEIPAs cloudy these days? Anyway it would be easy enough to mini-mash them if you were inclined to do so. A mini-mash is just a steep with slightly more precise temperature requirements. You would need a base malt to provide the diastatic power necessary to convert the starches.

Also, US05 may not be the best choice for that style, but I've never brewed a NEIPA so I'll let others weigh in on that.

[Edited to add: Oh, and I didn't notice, but those are miniscule amounts of oats and wheat. I guess they really are for the haze then? They certainly won't affect the beer much otherwise.]

 

Why FWH some hops and add others at 60?

 

If this is your goal, I would definitely drop the carapils and I would consider dropping the C20. I personally like a little crystal malt in an APA/IPA, but that is from an all-grain perspective. My impression is that most "light DME" is more than just a base malt and likely has something like carapils included.

 

If I understand the question, don't steep any malts, just use the DME. Or the DME and the C20 if you like.

 

I second that I wouldn't use S-05 for the second beer. I would use some imperial A-38 juice or London III. The US-05 is gonna be really clean and clear pretty well. Also Are you treating your water at all as I understand water chemistry is very important for this style. Ive never heard of anyone doing an extract version as well.

 

My advise for the extract NEIPA having done many of them recently.
- Swap the golden light DME for Pilsen or extra light DME.
- You don't need to steep any wheat or oats, just use at least 1 lb wheat DME
- Use WY1318 or WLP007
- Do not boil for 60 min, not necessary for extract. 20 min boil at most. Add one pound or so at beginning of boil and the rest with 5 min left.
- Don't worry about IBU calculations, you will get enough bitterness from the massive whirlpool steep. Maybe only use 1 oz columbus at 20 min for the boil and the rest of the hops for whirlpool/dry hopping.
- The final gravity is very important to keep in mind when doing extract. You want the beer to be dry enough so you don't have a cloying sweetness, between 1.010 and 1.014. This is why I suggest extra light DME, and when going above 1.058 OG, use sugar to keep the FG low. I use raw cane sugar, around 3 to 8 oz depending as it will increase gravity but completely ferment out. I've been hitting around 1.012 FG in mine.

 

That is true.

 

I would go the full pound with the flaked adjuncts and add a pound of 2-row for conversion.

I would cut the bittering hop in half or by three quarters, .25-.5 oz max. These beers are not that bitter.

I would use a totally different yeast. US-05 is not an approprate yeast for a NEIPA. If you cannot get liquid I hear people have some luck with S-04 from Fermentis.

Make sure you dry hop some during the active fermentation.

 

Looks tasty

 

OP, if you're sticking to dry yeast, I have had good results using S-04 for my NEIPA's as
@plaztikjezuz suggests above. Also, dry hopping during fermentation is key. I usually add my dry hops about 48-72 hours after pitching the yeast. Hope this helps! Cheers!

 

If you can find it imperial organic yeast A38 is liquid and doesn't require a starter for 5 gallons