Cloning A Really Old Brown Dog

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  1. Chipotle

    Chipotle Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2017 New York

    One of my favorite beers is Really Old Brown Dog. So naturally I want to come up with a recipe. Found a Smuttynose blog ( conjures up an image of something requiring tissue ) that gave this :



    Malt:

    Pilsner Malt

    Pale Ale Malt

    Crystal 60L

    Brown Malt

    Special B


    OG - 18° p

    TG - 4.5° p; ABV - 7.0%


    Hops:

    IBU 40


    Bittering - Liberty

    Flavoring & Aroma - Crystal


    With Brewer’s Friend Calculator I can make workable guesses for the recipe but it will likely take some trial and error to get the percentages right.


    So I thought maybe a shortcut might be to ask the knowledgable brewers here. Care to hazard an educated guess?
     
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  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't think I've ever tasted this beer. But one thing is for sure. You're going to need yeast.
     
  3. Chipotle

    Chipotle Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2017 New York

    Yup, and water ...
     
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  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    I've seen some references to Smuttynose's house strain being "Chico," so maybe try Wyeast 1056, WLP001, or US-05. No, these aren't really all the same strain, but they perform similarly and all have been called "Chico."
     
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  5. Chipotle

    Chipotle Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2017 New York

    ROBD has a malty fruitiness so I thought Safale 04 for the first try. I've not heard that about "Chico". I'll have to research some on that. Thanks for the input.
     
  6. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    You said "malty fruitiness", not "yeast-deriven esters". I'm guessing that comes from the Special B malt, and not the yeast.
     
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  7. Chipotle

    Chipotle Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2017 New York

    Indeed the Special B malt is essential to the flavor. As far as yeast goes I thought the 04 would be more compatible. But I'm in this to learn so I appreciate learning more.
     
  8. Chipotle

    Chipotle Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2017 New York

    Looks like I will have to try some different yeasts along with the various percentages of the fermentables to see which works best for this.

    Hopefully the experimental batches are at least a drinkable learning experience.

    Cheers all!
     
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  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Have you considered asking the brewery? Some will give you the recipe. Some, if you tell them what your draft recipe is, will offer hints. Some will tell you to get bent. But you never know unless you try.

    Once, for an article, I surveyed a lot of comm'l brewers, via email, on a particular aspect of their beers. Most had no problem giving me the information I asked for.
     
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  10. Chipotle

    Chipotle Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2017 New York

    Thanks for the suggestion, I will have to give writing to Smuttynose a try.

    With no percentages the base malts even seem odd to me. I'm guessing the Pilsner malt would be the dominant amount of base malt.
     
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